Crime & Punishment

I've uncovered yet another mission bot farm, but they are using CNR's, so ganking them for their goodies is more or less not profitable unless there are an absurd amount of Dessies involved.

So, my question is, is there any way i can trick the drones into shooting me. I've gone into their missions, stolen, bumped...stolen then repped....and can't get the thing to shoot me. We have yet to find them in a mission that requires spec loot, so we haven't tried flipping the mission-loot can yet. Though i'm afraid that the 'steal' warning will cause the bot to warp out, but will try it at first chance.

Are there any tricks to grabbing the drones aggro that maybe i just haven't thought of yet?

I've tried turning them in to CCP, but apparently there is not longer any incentive to do so, as all we got for group of 46 accounts was a "we have dealt with it appropriately" with no hint at a reward and no response on if they are still doing the 'plex for snitches' thing.

So, i figured we'd have another go at getting some shinies off this set before we report them, since we'll likely get nothing for the effort.

If the drones are out and engaging something, nothing you do is going to draw their attention to you. What I would do is try to draw full room agro, warp out, then bring in a friend to bump the CNR untill the rats kill him. (may have to repeat a few times before the rats finaly start shooting the victim)

NINJA EDIT: also you could try fitting a cheap ship with as many neuts as possible and draining all his cap. That should bustp up his cap (and his tank, and hopefuly his ship).

Here's a trick that has a very low probability of working, and would work best with the following circumstances:

Either an orca just off grid, or a station with a very short warp direct warp in to the mission space. Or best would be an acceleration gate with wrecks. And the bot's drones must be on aggressive.

1. When drones come out, but before they are set to attack a rat, shoot one. If they are aggressive, they will shoot you back. Be as close to them as possible, so they get to you and reciprocate before Concord shows up. You want to deaggress after that one shot, and hope they continue shooting you until you pop. This gives you a ~30 second window (depending on system sec level) of aggression, after your GCC dies.

2. The moment Concord pops you, warp to orca/station.

3. When gcc wears out, you should have an extremely limited window of aggression on the bot. If you're at an orca, hop in your new boat and warp to mission. If you're in station, undock and pray the window doesn't disappear just in the time it takes to undock/warp.

4. Warp into mission, pray he's still killable.

Like I said, an acceleration gate with wrecks on it you can use to extend the timer would be the most ideal, gives you a fresh 15mins to get in there and kill. Direct warp in is secondary, especially if you have friends keeping the CNR bumped near the warp in point.

Personally, I would have buddies bumping the CNR so he can't warp out.. and I would use a cheap ship with very fast align/lock time. Just get in, refresh the aggression and THEN get in your dps ship.


If this actually works, feel free to send me a cut of the loot.

edit: I didn't remember right

You don't remember right. Aside from directly attacking the owner, those drones are never going to engage you unless he specifically tells them to.

= GCC

Actually, we tried that, it won't even let you do it anymore (repping rats). We tried stealing loots, then repping him/drones, to maybe flag some for of 'engage'...but it didn't work either.

On the neuting front, 2 cycles from a Geddon drains dry, from a Rupture...not so much, but going to try it w/ Ruppy and see if it kicks it over enough to eventually drain.

you fail to say if this is high/low/null sec, but if cap drain is the goal, 5 good Stealth bombers with void bombs will drop that to 0 in no time.

my over site, sorry.

/me laughs at the dudes wearing Batcowls and shouting "For...I am the lawlz!" as they inflict street justice on the internet where everyone is a code programer.

Sure, they are bots. I mean...who has to respond in local if requested since they can just ignore you. Could just be a bunch of guys that multi-box and maybe share accounts to run 23/7 since CCP can't detect that humans do in fact player multiple accounts at once (as they ******* intended FFS sake) or maybe they are not even human but not of this Earth which is another possiblity excluding synthetic intelligence...who knows.

What you can do is the one thing you can do...report them and let CCP investigate. What you fail to understand is two things that don't happen in the real world unless its the United States in 1692 and the 1950s....just because you call someone a Communist Witch doesn't mean its actually true until the fact is actually proven. Its 2012 folks and you are not proven guilty until they cannot log in, you need evidence based on facts not assumptions just because someone uses a naming convention based on...I don't know natural human tendencies like the fact someone names their kid after themselves and suddenly its John Sosandso the IV....is that a bot?. Nope, and I know some people that just rename their characters with a slight modification to make them different but you know who they are.

The othe thing is just HTFU, tighen up that jockstrap, pull your socks up and drop that sausage dog in your hands because the call to arms has been sounded and you don't have time to eat. Just gank them...again and again and again like its Date **** Night at the local bar. That you can do, unless you are of course a risk adverse pussy who doesn't want to risk losing something of value like access to highsec.

So...report them and let CCP deal with it. People are not stupid and CCP can't just ban an account just because you say so (which would be ******* awesome if they did cause I would abuse that like John Mccarthy ) so the bots get smarter. CCP is also probably now following the money trail, its stupid to just bust the bot accounts without nailing the horde of isk it generates that can still be left out there.

Even if they aren't bots. It's a decent way to make money. (the booster dropping alone would MORE than pay for the whole op)