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Goons have shaken the **** out of the tree... I enjoyed watching some of it from the stream (40" HD TV beside me!) and some from a cloaky...

Good times were had by all. I think...

I wonder, does anyone have stats on how man freighters/jf's were ganked in Jita and the surrounding constellations before burn jita? It would be interesting to compare the burn jita results with some sort of baseline, because 25 freighter/9 jf kills doesn't seem all that impressive.

Personally, I had the popcorn out and was hoping for a bit more carnage. Perhaps my expectations were too high.

OMFG, you gotta be kidding.

Talk about an obvious Public Relations 'used car salesman' tactic. That PC Gamer write up is pathetic. It has so many half truths stretched so far in it even a blind man could see all the holes. Hell, I'm not even sure what game they're talking about. Instead of using shovels to spread that manure, they used a Bulldozer and Dump Truck.

The entire write up is biased and one sided. Specifically written to portray the GSF as brilliant infamous Militaristic Strategists who flawlessly executed a precise plan to accomplish the most daring and impossible feat ever imagined in the history of Eve Online.

I will say it was an entertaining read and they did manage to get a couple of the facts correct. Such as Jita being the largest busiest Trade hub in high security and GSF's sole purpose is to grief other players and break the game. The rest of the write up is nothing more than overly dramatized half truths such as:

1 - It (Jita) is far from the dangers of null sec, an incredibly safe zone guarded by a deadly NPC police force with impeccable response time.

2 - .....rich traders and industrial overlords manufacture the goods that fuel the entire game and trade them on the well-protected markets in Jita, the heart of the Empire.

3 - .....building 15,000 spaceships and loading their guns with 1 round of ammo to shoot. And doing it right in front of the police.

4 - .....the Goonswarm’s goal is no less than invading the most protected and populated hub of industry in the galaxy and crushing it.

5 - Conquering the most populated system in the galaxy that’s also guarded by the richest players and over-protective NPC police is not a small job.

6 - They (GSF) launched that campaign last night (Friday) with hundreds of suicide runs into the system.

7 - In EVE there are 3 market hubs: Rens, Amarr, and Jita.

8 - (Early in the story) For the past three months, they’ve (CFC) been planning and building up a suicide squadron of fighters for their next campaign, called “Burn Jita". (Later in the story) The “Burn Jita” campaign has been in the works for roughly 4-5 months now.

9 - The weekend of April the 28th was chosen as the official launch date for the campaign because it’s the first weekend after CCP launched the first part of its Inferno expansion.

10 - And of course, it wouldn’t be a big EVE Online event without someone threatening to stab someone in real life.


These are just some of the statements presented in the story. It reminded me of how watching a movie that's based on a book is always different than the actually story within the book. Anyway, the write up in PC Gamer is a good promo for CCP despite all the biased half truths presented in it.

I think you have also missed the point. If you had to move your operations around and markets shift in reaction to the events in Jita; that is a direct cause and effect event.





Final numbers aren't in yet, but someone earlier in this very thread counted 26 Freighters destroyed in the past 2 days of Burn Jita and 26 Freighters destroyed in the previous 14 months in Jita.

The writer doesn't have to play Eve, he was conducting interviews with former CSM member Goonswarm pilot Zastrow and Lazarus Telraven, one of Goonswarm’s main Fleet Commanders. I wouldn't be surprised if CCP was silently involved with the interview as well.

Very disappointing. Expected 10x more than what it was.

The event was over hyped.

Funny thing is that it was over hyped pretty much entirely by people making constant threads and commenting on each others theads about it.

I personally did not care less or see it having a major impact but every time I looked at GD last month a third of what I saw was...

Goons are ruining the game.
CCP are going to be forced to take action.
EVE is dying.
Burn Jita will accomplish nothing.
Burn Jita will destroy Jita.
People are going to panic over Burn Jita.
The Mittani is being petty by trying to ruin the game.
Everyone is going to quit EVE.
I'm going to farm killmails off of it.
Burn Jita is good for the economy.
Burn Jita is bad for the economy.
No one will be in Jita.
High Sec Carebears will all die and the forum will be flooded with tears.
Goons should all be banned from EVE.
Will Jita Burn?
What do you think of Burn Jita.
Ect, Ect, Ect.

For the past month this has been commented on non stop. That's where 90% of the hype came from from what in reality was just a short two day suicide ganking spree that accomplished exactly what I expected.

A bunch of ships died and most of the pilots all got in new ships and kept playing.

It was written so that a non-EVE player could understand what is going on. I think it did a pretty good job. Compare that to the eurogamer article, http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant , which is perfectly fine in EVE-terms but a complete gibberish for the people having no clue about EVE.

Also, you could make a case that all the points are actually correct. Or would you care to point out the (blatantly) false ones?

EDIT: Ok, after a second read, 9 is just a fantasy, some of the others are so-so. I still think the article was more or less ok since it wasn't trying to be describing the events absolutely accurately.

Awww you sound really mad right now. Does making stuff up about other people help you feel better, broh? You just keep slapping that straw man. You slap him, good.