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CCP's Intellectual Property Being Used Without Permission?

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Vagenbrae
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-04-29 00:10:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Vagenbrae
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-04-29 00:16:00 UTC
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-29 00:19:21 UTC
a few things i learned from this thread

- you play third-rate games
- adopt is no longer in TEST
- people still use photobucket

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Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-04-29 00:21:54 UTC
Personly I have mixed feelings about "IP", I think in many cases it's fine when credit is given, and if the "content" or product isn't just a copy... if the product is inspired by... and thus only have some resemblance, I can deal with it :)... but credit must be given.

In this case... it's not okay

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ChYph3r
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-04-29 00:23:26 UTC
Andski wrote:
a few things i learned from this thread

- you play third-rate games
- adopt is no longer in TEST
- people still use photobucket



Andski you beat me to the post i learned the same things.....its truly amazing

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#6 - 2012-04-29 00:24:11 UTC
Heh, the Loki is a dreadnought

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#7 - 2012-04-29 00:25:31 UTC
Simply taking someones art and "stuff" outright is a certifiable IP infringement per the original idea.

Yes, it gets abused.


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Vagenbrae
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-29 00:29:34 UTC
adopt wrote:
I saw an Abaddon, Armageddon, Loki, Drake, Raven and Proteus.

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/IMG_0523.png
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/IMG_3583.png
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/IMG_8599.png

And this is the Propulsion on what seems to be an Archon
http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/IMG_8611.png


It's hard to see, but if you look at the Ion Cannon pic ( http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/?action=view&current=IMG_4620.png ) you'll also see a hybrid blaster, next to the cannon.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-04-29 00:29:58 UTC
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Vagenbrae
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-04-29 00:31:50 UTC
They may still be able to get it removed from Apple's online store.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-04-29 00:36:10 UTC
Ah, terrible smartphone games, a myriad cesspit of stolen content and IP violation.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#12 - 2012-04-29 00:37:14 UTC
You should really contact CCP directly.
Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
#13 - 2012-04-29 00:38:14 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


They can get it removed from the App store pretty easily, no need to do anything thats related to china.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#14 - 2012-04-29 00:55:23 UTC
Vagenbrae wrote:
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#15 - 2012-04-29 01:02:09 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Vagenbrae wrote:
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.


Will you also personally go to the developers house and show them the error of their ways?

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FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-04-29 01:04:33 UTC
battlestar.tk is another copy and paste of Ogames (similar to what the OP mentioned). Has some Eve Online pictures in them as well. Just mentioning it.
Vagenbrae
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-04-29 01:05:40 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.


Done
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#18 - 2012-04-29 01:12:40 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Vagenbrae wrote:
Just wanted to bring up a concern I had about an iPhone game, called Galaxy Empire, that seems to be using IP from Ogame, Eve Online, Star Trek, and others. Maybe they are paying for it, and maybe not. Just thought I would raise awareness, in case they are not. I was looking for a game to play on iPhone, and I saw one that reminded me of Ogame, from when I played a while back. After getting it, I realized it wasn't like Ogame. It is Ogame. The same gameplay style, a lot of the same artwork, and item descriptions. They also use a bit of artwork from Eve Online.

I took some snapshots of the game, with my iPhone (sorry for the small pictures, as iPhone has limited screen real estate). I posted them on Photobucket at http://s1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii512/cosaides/

The Chinese-made game itself is free to play, but they offer micro transactions of "Dark Matter" that can accelerate building and research time, as well as provide additional resources of metal, crystal, and gas.

Anyway, this is just an FYI, in case CCP's legal team wants to get involved. I hate IP pirates.


If you'd reframe this into an EVE Specific gripe with snapshots of our stolen artwork and send it to security@ccpgames.com I can assure you it will vanish.


Will you also personally go to the developers house and show them the error of their ways?

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seany1212
M Y S T
#19 - 2012-04-29 01:18:12 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted
Stonkeep
Osmanli Empire
#20 - 2012-04-29 01:29:19 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Well, not much ccp can do about it. First off, China has a notorious history of ripping off intellectual property, patent infringement, you name it. Second, chinese govt doesn't enforce these. CCP could try, but nothing would come of it. Let them take the pictures is about all that can happen.


Pretty much this, good luck trying to issue cease and desist letters to china Roll All you can do is just negative review it into the ground Twisted


It has already been explained. They do not need to contact China, They just need to contact Apple, a US based company where copyright infringement is a very serious offense. Apple will remove it from the store and the App will seize to exist. Done and Done.
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