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Solo C1 all-in-one ship (is it doable?)
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Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-05-02 09:45:03 UTC
Not that I have done them in a while but I used to like trying different ships in lower class sites. These are some of the following that I played around with that work well (in order of how much fun they were):

Ishtar
Ishkur
Jaguar
Dominix
Myrmidon
Deimos
Malestrom
Broadsword (lol)
Drake

The ishtar is perfect for running lower class sites as you can't really use the hi-slots for much else anyway.
Make sure you fit a medium RR mod to it too to rep your sentries (use sentries) when they get armor damage.

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Gizelle Danzi
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-05-02 13:59:58 UTC
Ryday wrote:
Nendail Smith wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
You can but it sucks.

You don't make any isk killing sleepers. You only make isk from salvaging and looting them. While you can easily clear C1 sites with a drake and a salvager in the utility high, salvaging the wrecks with one salvager sucks.

Not to mention each second you are in a site, you are at risk of getting ganked.


I'm afraid I have to agree with Derath. You might as well go mine in High Sec, because you will make much more isk with far less risk. There really isn't a large sum of money to be made in C1's and anything you go into with an open high-sec hole you are begging to lose your ship. If you wanted to commit to a couple days at a time in wh's and had two characters I could help you, but one ship in any wormspace is nothing more than a recipe for an adrenaline rush while someone kills your ship.

It's a question of risk verse reward. You do make a lot of isk from sleeper loot, even in a C1. Mining in high sec solo (no hauler) will net you somewhere around 10m isk per hour in a hulk and you're likely to get ganked. C1 combat sites should net you around 45m isk per hour if you are totally solo. Hence, if you fly a implantless clone (suggested) and a BC you'll make up any loss in about an hour.

With decent skills and a passive tank of 250+ or so in a BC you should be fine. I'd suggest the Hurricane since it has two free high slots and the best dps of all tier 2 BC. I'm not sure I'd bother with a cloak or probe launcher. Find and scan the site out with a cov ops first then return with your BC. Since you'll have more than enough dps from your guns you could fit ECM drones incase you get pointed.


Have you ever even spent time in a wormhole? What happens when that high-sec exit you used closes and you are now stuck inside the WH in a BC without probes or cloak? Even moving stuff in a hauler, I still fit a probe launcher and proto cloak just in case. Of course if you aren't worried about losing your BC and implants, then by all means just self-destruct after the exit closes.
Galffin
Blamazon Decorporated
#23 - 2012-05-02 19:56:18 UTC
If someone were determined to mine out a c1 I'd say use a refining array.

Everything else is a logistics nightmare.

PS. Personally I would build a couple BS in the WH, just cause you can. Big smile
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#24 - 2012-05-02 21:57:26 UTC
Pythag Malikai wrote:
I think the only way to make any real money in a C1 is via mining


Derath Ellecon wrote:
No the big money in a C1 is PI.


Actually, I found C1 sites to be significantly more profitable than most people realize. I was using a dedicated Noctis pilot, but with two accounts I was pulling 100-150 million an hour doing sites in a Legion.

My suggestion is to find a C2 with a C1 static. And if nothing else, train a low-skill salvage alt for a few weeks as a second character. Log yourself out, the noctis pilot in, and salvage all those wrecks you remembered to bookmark.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#25 - 2012-05-02 21:58:24 UTC
Galffin wrote:
If someone were determined to mine out a c1 I'd say use a refining array.

Everything else is a logistics nightmare.

PS. Personally I would build a couple BS in the WH, just cause you can. Big smile


you *can* build carriers in C1s so far as I know. And there they shall remain Big smile

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Narzis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-05-02 22:49:07 UTC
Almost every BC can do the job, but - as others have said already - the real problem will be the salvaging. The myrmi will be a good idea, or a Gila.

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Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#27 - 2012-05-03 03:05:45 UTC
Gila looks like the best way to make it happen.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-05-03 05:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Pythag Malikai wrote:
I think the only way to make any real money in a C1 is via mining


Derath Ellecon wrote:
No the big money in a C1 is PI.


Actually, I found C1 sites to be significantly more profitable than most people realize. I was using a dedicated Noctis pilot, but with two accounts I was pulling 100-150 million an hour doing sites in a Legion.

My suggestion is to find a C2 with a C1 static. And if nothing else, train a low-skill salvage alt for a few weeks as a second character. Log yourself out, the noctis pilot in, and salvage all those wrecks you remembered to bookmark.


Salvage alt doesn't need very much training at all either. ORE Industrial, Salvaging, Electronics-4, Cloaking-1... that's about it.
Pythag Malikai
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#29 - 2012-05-03 11:35:51 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Pythag Malikai wrote:
I think the only way to make any real money in a C1 is via mining


Derath Ellecon wrote:
No the big money in a C1 is PI.


Actually, I found C1 sites to be significantly more profitable than most people realize. I was using a dedicated Noctis pilot, but with two accounts I was pulling 100-150 million an hour doing sites in a Legion.

My suggestion is to find a C2 with a C1 static. And if nothing else, train a low-skill salvage alt for a few weeks as a second character. Log yourself out, the noctis pilot in, and salvage all those wrecks you remembered to bookmark.

I suppose I should have worded it differently. While there is potential to make a good amount of ISK with nanoribbons, you will go through dry spells that effectively render your site running a waste of time. I know that my time in wormholes has been hit or miss with nanoribbons, and overall, I think that my nanoribbon hauls from salvaging has been remarkably average. Sure, I get the occasional spike of good luck that doubles my income (from C3 sites) or more, but those are rare and usually short lived.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-05-03 13:03:27 UTC
Pythag Malikai wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Pythag Malikai wrote:
I think the only way to make any real money in a C1 is via mining


Derath Ellecon wrote:
No the big money in a C1 is PI.


Actually, I found C1 sites to be significantly more profitable than most people realize. I was using a dedicated Noctis pilot, but with two accounts I was pulling 100-150 million an hour doing sites in a Legion.

My suggestion is to find a C2 with a C1 static. And if nothing else, train a low-skill salvage alt for a few weeks as a second character. Log yourself out, the noctis pilot in, and salvage all those wrecks you remembered to bookmark.

I suppose I should have worded it differently. While there is potential to make a good amount of ISK with nanoribbons, you will go through dry spells that effectively render your site running a waste of time. I know that my time in wormholes has been hit or miss with nanoribbons, and overall, I think that my nanoribbon hauls from salvaging has been remarkably average. Sure, I get the occasional spike of good luck that doubles my income (from C3 sites) or more, but those are rare and usually short lived.



While that may be true, the real money in a C1 is still not mining. in my time living in a C1 (about 6 months) the frequency of grav sites was even more sporatic than nanoribbon drops. add the logistical nightmare of ore in a c1 (rorq to compress, huge capital investment, refining at pos time consuming and hugely wasteful, hauling huge amounts of ore out with a T1 hauler annoying)

I tried to mine in my C1. And even with just 2 retrievers I would generate enough ore in one mining session to have to make many trips worth of ore out. I made better isk, or had more fun popping out of my lowsec static and either hunt or explore for plexes than bothering with mining.

I found via combat sites (anoms and rat spawns from sigs) averaged about 500mil a week in a C1. that's just the home system, not including any farming of neighboring systems. And yes i would have weeks with almost nothing new spawning.

Hence my comment that the real money in a C1 is in fact PI. It is the only thing (well in any WH system) that is ALWAYS there. Granted in a C5 a single cap escalated anom will probably generate more isk than a month of PI in a C1, but you get the idea.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#31 - 2012-05-05 11:22:10 UTC
I did this in a hurricane, it was very fun, but not very profitable :(

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