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FACTION STANDING REPAIR PLAN ('The Plan')

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#141 - 2012-06-29 04:58:43 UTC
Versuvius Marii,

Congratulations and thank you for the compliment, it's always good to know 'The Plan' is helping other players.

Yeah, shouldn't take long to run the Circle Agents if needed. Only have to complete the circle once.

Unfortunately Amarr and Caldari standings will drop, which is the reason for the 'bounce' action. However, to bypass doing the 'bounce', the Epic Arcs can bring those standings back up without really affecting the other Factions. In fact, after getting all main Factions above -2.00 standing, you could just run the Epic Arcs every 3 months and continue raising the main Factions without incurring a lot of derived standings.

Anyway, thanks for posting and I hope you have continued good luck.


DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2012-07-06 10:57:54 UTC
Just putting this up for now, I've almost completed all Empire Event Agents. I have 4 more agents to complete. Seems Amarr and Caldari have a lot more level 4 Cosmos Agents which has caused my standings to get lop sided. That means I'll have to run the Epic arcs before doing these last agents.

Will update this thread when I have completed that.


DMC
Independence Marouder
A.TEAm
#143 - 2012-08-08 05:41:09 UTC
Ive followed this topic with great interest the last week or so and first have to give props for the insane amount of work DMC has put into this, and the continued support (and amazing patience with questions from people who clearly havent even read the plan, just want a 'fix' for their specific problem)

Ive started dabbing in the plan even tho my standings arent terrible, I figured i might as well get it done as a preventive measure instead of waiting until things got bad.

Anyways, I have a question about the Epic Arcs. I have heard that the arcs are alot harder than regular missions and was wondering if I might not yet be "up to code" for doing them. I normally run lvl4 security-missions for Fed Navy with relative ease in a mostly T2 fitted Myrmidon, but noticed that the ones posting about their Epic Arcs generally have Commandships or the like. Should I wait doing the Epic Arcs until I can run them in a T2 ship?

Again, DMC, thanks for your continued support and amazing work!
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
#144 - 2012-08-28 00:41:24 UTC
Free bump for a solid plan. After a lot of effort I'm now on positive standings with all four empires, thanks again!

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#145 - 2012-11-25 22:12:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Well, all I can say at this time is that I'm sorry for being M.I.A. Believe me, it was unavoidable.

Anyway, it's great to be back.

Independence Marouder wrote:

Anyways, I have a question about the Epic Arcs. I have heard that the arcs are alot harder than regular missions and was wondering if I might not yet be "up to code" for doing them. I normally run lvl4 security-missions for Fed Navy with relative ease in a mostly T2 fitted Myrmidon, but noticed that the ones posting about their Epic Arcs generally have Commandships or the like. Should I wait doing the Epic Arcs until I can run them in a T2 ship?

Again, DMC, thanks for your continued support and amazing work!


Thanks for the complements. I guess if you're already easily doing level 4 missions, running the epic arcs shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I think it's a good idea to already have and be trained to pilot T2 and T3 ships if you're going to do Cosmos / Epic Arc missions. Also the Evelopedia, Lorebook and Eve-Survival Mission Reports (Links are in 'The Plan') have tips, notes and comments for easy completion of each mission.

Thanks for posting and again, sorry for the late reply.

DMC





Versuvius Marii wrote:
Free bump for a solid plan. After a lot of effort I'm now on positive standings with all four empires, thanks again!


Versuvius Marii,

Thank you for the friendly bump and complements. A very big gratz on gaining positive standings with the four main Empire Factions. I hope you have continued success.

DMC
Lysa Riay
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2012-12-14 12:25:43 UTC
Great plan, and glad to see you back

WB!

Could Klang take the (now rotting) pizzas & the launcher out as they leave the building plz.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2012-12-14 18:43:00 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Lysa Riay wrote:
Great plan, and glad to see you back

WB!


Lysa Riay,

Thank you for posting the compliment about 'The Plan' and for welcoming me back. It's good to be back here again, both in-forums and in-game.

I only have a few more Empire Cosmos Agents left to complete. However, due to Amarr and Caldari having a lot more Cosmos Agents available (Amarr has the most agents), my Faction standings have become badly lop-sided again. As such, I need to first complete the level 4 Gallente and Minmatar Epic Arcs along with the Level 1 SoE Epic Arc (complete it for Minmatar). After that my Faction standings should be back close to being equal / balanced again. Then I'll complete the last few Empire Cosmos Agents.

After completing the last few remaining Empire Event Agents available in New Eden, I'll probably run the Empire Epic Arcs a couple more times to build up a large 'Buffer Zone' before concentrating on completing the Pirate Event Agents (planed for 2013).

As usual, I'll be sure to keep you all updated on my stats as I complete various steps in 'The Plan' to complete all Event Agents available in this game.



DMC
Versuvius Marii
Browncoats of Persephone
#148 - 2012-12-16 20:03:05 UTC
Okay, here's a question for you dude.

Positive Jove standings. How do I get them? ;) I don't actually want them, but it'd help answer a discussion we're having lately.

The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2012-12-17 04:21:47 UTC
Good question.

Well, positive Jove standings will accumulate automatically through derived standings by completing Event Agent missions for most of the major Empire factions. The same principle also applies for gaining negative derived standings.

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Standings#Standing_Relationships

The 'In-Game Inter-Faction Relationships' graph is read from the top down. The 'Derived Inter-Faction Standing Modifier' graph is read from left to right.


Hope this info helps.



DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#150 - 2012-12-25 05:03:22 UTC
Just a friendly little reminder / bump to help spread a little Christmas Cheer.

Happy Holidays and Season's Greetings to EVEryone.



DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#151 - 2012-12-30 21:45:59 UTC
Quote:
Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 26/07/2010 11:39:10

Well, I decided to find out the total amount of COSMOS agents currently available including the Faction ship offer agents.
I left out the 2 CONCORD Agents that give the 'special' 1 time mission offer for security status increase and the Epic Arc Agents.

Here are the stats I found:

Total amount of COSMOS Agents = 160

Faction Totals
Amarr = 32 agents
Ammatar = 2 agents
Caldari = 49 agents (7 no Faction Standing increase)
Khanid = 1 agent
Total = 84 (7 no Faction Standing increase)

Gallente = 18 agents
Minmatar = 35 agents (1 no mission offer, 6 no Faction Standing increase)
ORE = 2 agents
Sisters of Eve = 4 agents
Thukker = 7 agents
Total = 66 (7 no Faction Standing increase)

Guristas = 5 agents
Angel = 5 agents
Total = 10 agents


Total amount per Cosmos Constellation

Amarr Cosmos = 28 agents
High Security - Araz constellation = 21 agents
21 Amarr

Low Security - Kador constellation = 7 agents
3 Amarr
2 Ammatar
1 Khanid
1 Caldari


Caldari Cosmos = 52 agents
High Security - Okkelen constellation = 52 agents
42 Caldari (6 no Faction Standing increase)
5 Guristas
3 Angel
1 Minmatar
1 Amarr

(Amarr Agent located in Prison Stage of Guristas Plex in Otomainen System)


Gallente Cosmos = 26 agents
High Security - Algintal constellation = 26 agents
16 Gallente
5 Thukker
3 Caldari
1 Angel
1 Ore


Minmatar Cosmos = 55 agents
High Security - Ani constellation = 49 agents
30 Minmatar (1 no missions, 6 no Faction Standing increase)
7 Amarr
4 Caldari (1 no Faction Standing increase)
4 SoE
1 Gallente
2 Thukker
1 Angel

Low Security - Audesder System = 6 agents
4 Minmatar
1 Gallente
1 ORE


As you can see the amount of agents for each Empire Faction definitely needs to be balanced.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#152 - 2013-01-01 07:00:05 UTC
Just wanted to post an update of my stats.

Empire Standings - Modified (Base):
Amarr Empire +8.02 (+7.52),
Caldari State +7.50 (+6.87),
Ammatar Mandate +7.26 (+6.57),
Khanid Kingdom +6.75 (+5.94),
The Interbus +5.13 (+3.92),
Gallente Federation +4.48 (+3.10),
Minmatar Republic +4.24 (+2.80),
Concord Assembly +2.56 (+0.70),

Social Skills:
Social lv 5
Connections lv 5
Fast Talk lv 5
Diplomacy lv 5
Negotiation lv 5

Tutorial, Career, Circle Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions

Data Center Tags completed:
Minmatar = All Angel Tags
Gallente = All Serpentis Tags
Caldari = All Guristas Tags
Amarr = All Blood Tags
Ammatar = All Sansha Tags

Epic Arcs Completed:
Level 1 Sisters Of Eve = 7x (3x Minmatar, 2x Amarr, 2x Gallente)
Level 4 Amarr = 3x
Level 4 Caldari = 1x
Level 4 Gallente = 2x (active)
Level 4 Minmatar = 3x

Cosmos Agents Completed:
All Empire Factions = level 4 and lower (4 agents left)

Special Agents Completed (Security Status):
Christer Fuglesang = Concord
Jeremy Tacs = Concord

Security Status:
+5.85


All the main Faction standings were actually well above +6.00 after I had completed an equal amount of level 4 agents per Faction. As you can see, Minmatar and Gallente took a large hit due to Amarr and Caldari having more level 4 Cosmos Agents.

Anyway, I'm working the Epic Arcs right now to re-balance my standings. I still have 4 more Empire level 4 Cosmos Agents left to complete. After I complete those, I'll then run the Epic Arcs a few more times to build up a buffer zone before I start working the Pirate Event Agents.

As always, I'll keep you all updated on my stats and various steps in 'The Plan' to complete all Event Agents available in this game.



DMC
Larenon en Marland
United Eve Directorate
#153 - 2013-02-07 10:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Larenon en Marland
I started working the Plan, and I noticed a strange thing. As far as I know, COSMOS agents only check faction standing to determine if they're giving you their missions or not. After having done the level 1 COSMOS agents in Caldari, I went over to the agent, Retin Ariato and accepted her first mission. Then I realized a few minutes later: "Whoa, how could this happen?" Because, you see, she is a level 2 COSMOS agent, but when I accepted the mission, my Caldari faction standing was not above 2.00 (which as to my understanding is required for a level 2 COSMOS agent), it was somewhere along the lines of 1.60ish... (modified by Connections skill of course) I checked my Wiyrkomi Corporation standing as well (she is an agent of that corp) but it was not above 2.00 either. Finally I checked my direct standing with her, but obviously it was not above 2.00, it was a meager 1.3 I also checked if the player corp my character is in, might have better standings with her or Caldari, but no "luck" there either.

So, I'm curious how could I accept a level 2 COSMOS agent mission if my standings were nowhere near the supposedly required 2.00

Has this been changed recently maybe? Has anyone else experienced something similar?
Larenon en Marland
United Eve Directorate
#154 - 2013-02-07 22:04:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Larenon en Marland
I thought it might be helpful to someone, so I decided to post here my progress reports while working the Plan, so everyone can see how it works step-by-step and the topic gets a free on-topic bump now and then, too. :-) Mind you, my starting the Plan was not "perfect", because I dabbled in Gallente COSMOS before deciding a few days ago to start working the Plan seriously.

So, let's see the starting statistics:
Level 1 Gallente COSMOS agents done
I also did the SOE epic arc once, choosing Caldari at the end.
Level 1 Caldari COSMOS agents done.
One Level 2 Caldari COSMOS agent done (I accepted her mission just before I decided working on the plan).
I also did some missioning for various agents in the past, depending on wherever I may have roamed. I tried avoiding though to accept missions going against Empire factions, with more or less success.
The result of all this is that Gallente - Minmatar became my "positive" factions and Amarr - Caldari my "negative" factions. I never did go below -2.00 on either of them though, so I'm free to travel anywhere in Empire space and starting the Plan was no problem at all. Since I'm currently based in Caldari space and Caldari standing was the least negative, I started working the Plan with Caldari a few days ago and as per the description I started with the first 5 career agents.

1st update (05 February 2013)
Skills: Connections, Diplomacy, Negotiations, Social ► all are at Level 3

Empire standings after all 5 career agents are done in Jouvulen. (Base / Modified by Skill)

Amarr Empire -1.02 / 0.3024
Caldari State 0.89 / 1.9832
Gallente Federation 0.48 / 1.6224
Minmatar Republic 1.05 / 2.124
Ammatar Mandate 0.2 / 1.376
Khanid Kingdom 0.5 / 1.64
The Interbus 1.07 / 2.1416

2nd update (07 February 2013)
Skills: Connections, Diplomacy, Negotiations, Social ► all are at Level 3

Empire standings after all 5 career agents are done in Uitra. (Base / Modified by Skill)

Amarr Empire -0.58 / 0.6896
Caldari State 1.6 / 2.608
Gallente Federation 0.06 / 1.2528
Minmatar Republic 0.88 / 1.9744
Ammatar Mandate 0.78 / 1.8864
Khanid Kingdom 1.06 / 2.1328
The Interbus 1.25 / 2.3
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#155 - 2013-02-07 23:58:46 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Larenon en Marland wrote:


So, I'm curious how could I accept a level 2 COSMOS agent mission if my standings were nowhere near the supposedly required 2.00

Has this been changed recently maybe? Has anyone else experienced something similar?


Larenon en Marland, that's interesting to say the least. I'm not sure what the situation is pertaining to that. Maybe it was due to a bug or quite possibly you just miss-read your Faction standing when you accessed that agent. Anyway, it's an error that's definitely in your favor. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.

I'd like to point out that having Faction standing (modified) above -2.00 allows access to agents above level 1. You can freely travel through Empire space as long as you maintain Faction above -5.00 standing. If not, NPC Navy will attack.

Well, it looks like 'The Plan' is definitely helping your Faction standings. To get the best standing gain possible for completing the Event Agent missions, train up Social skill to level 5 asap. Connections skill trained up will make it easier to access higher level agents.

Thank you very much for posting and I hope you have continued good luck working 'The Plan'.



DMC
J'Ribs
Zepthanui
#156 - 2013-02-08 21:59:41 UTC
Another +1 bump to the plan.

btw: do you even mention FW as a way to increase standing?

In addition... if someone wants to JUST launch a POS, it's fastest to go for Ammatar standing by running amarr missions. They have a +11.25 standings, so they like you more than Amarr when you do a mission!

Everyone else is +10 only

(Altho remember, there's no + to doing the Sisters of Eve Epic if you decide Ammatar is for you.)

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#157 - 2013-02-10 05:04:10 UTC
J'Ribs,

Thanks for the bump. Always good to see that.

Big smile

As for mentioning Factional Warfare, yes the standing gain is excellent but it also kills the opposing Faction Standings at the same time. The main purpose of 'The Plan' is to gain and maintain positive standing with all Empire Factions which is why I don't mention FW.

'The Plan' is more of a guide which can be customized to fit each players specific situation. Some players just need to maintain standings above -5.00 to freely travel throughout high security systems while other players may want to get a specific Faction above -2.00 standing for access to higher level agents. Still other players may use 'The Plan' to gain high Faction standings in order to anchor a POS in high security. Then there's players like me who just want to complete all Event Agents available in this game.

Anyway, thanks again for posting.



DMC
Zornia Estemaire
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2013-02-13 00:19:55 UTC
DMC,

First, thanks so much for this plan you developed. It has really helped my other character with raising his Gallante status. He went from -2.45 to + 0.14 in just a weekend. You've helped me in the past with other forum "issues" I had in my younger days which I really appreciated.

Now to my dilemma. My standings for this pilot(which does missions and exploring)are as follows:

Gallante: 7.30 6.78
Minmater: 6.71 6.08
Amarr: -4.95 -6.99
Caldari: -3.21 -5.01
Sec Status: 5.0023

What part of the plan could I benefit to raise my Amarr and Caldari standings without losing standing with the other two? The reason for this is I want to use this pilot to put up a POS in High Sec for my Indy pilot to run. At the moment by raising my Gallante standings a bit more I could pick from .5,.6, or .7 systems. And I don't want to jepordize that working on Amarr and Caldari standings. Thx in advance for any advise you could give.Smile
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2013-02-13 04:08:30 UTC
Zornia Estemaire wrote:
DMC,

First, thanks so much for this plan you developed. It has really helped my other character with raising his Gallante status. He went from -2.45 to + 0.14 in just a weekend. You've helped me in the past with other forum "issues" I had in my younger days which I really appreciated.

Now to my dilemma. My standings for this pilot(which does missions and exploring)are as follows:

Gallante: 7.30 6.78
Minmater: 6.71 6.08
Amarr: -4.95 -6.99
Caldari: -3.21 -5.01
Sec Status: 5.0023

What part of the plan could I benefit to raise my Amarr and Caldari standings without losing standing with the other two? The reason for this is I want to use this pilot to put up a POS in High Sec for my Indy pilot to run. At the moment by raising my Gallante standings a bit more I could pick from .5,.6, or .7 systems. And I don't want to jepordize that working on Amarr and Caldari standings. Thx in advance for any advise you could give.Smile


Epic arcs, repeatable once every 3 months. Everything else has a derived standing hit towards opposing faction.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#160 - 2013-02-13 04:27:17 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Zornia Estemaire wrote:
DMC,

First, thanks so much for this plan you developed. It has really helped my other character with raising his Gallante status. He went from -2.45 to + 0.14 in just a weekend. You've helped me in the past with other forum "issues" I had in my younger days which I really appreciated.

Now to my dilemma. My standings for this pilot(which does missions and exploring)are as follows:

Gallante: 7.30 6.78
Minmater: 6.71 6.08
Amarr: -4.95 -6.99
Caldari: -3.21 -5.01
Sec Status: 5.0023

What part of the plan could I benefit to raise my Amarr and Caldari standings without losing standing with the other two? The reason for this is I want to use this pilot to put up a POS in High Sec for my Indy pilot to run. At the moment by raising my Gallante standings a bit more I could pick from .5,.6, or .7 systems. And I don't want to jepordize that working on Amarr and Caldari standings. Thx in advance for any advise you could give.Smile

Zornia Estemaire,

Thanks for the compliment and positive review. It's always good to see that. Yeah, I remember those 'Issues' very well. It's definitely much better now due to CCP, ISD and CCL. I believe that problem will never again be an issue like it was before.

And if it does happen again, definitely know how to deal with it, right?

Blink

Now on to more pressing matters.

As for the dilemma of raising your negative standings without affecting your positive standings, start training Diplomacy to level 5 asap. While that's training, complete the Sisters Of Eve level 1 Epic Arc for Amarr. Hopefully your Social skill is already trained up which increases the standing gain for mission completion. That should give you a bit of breathing room, at least for a little while.

The next step is a big one, basically it's complete the level 4 Amarr and Caldari Epic Arcs. Unfortunately right now you don't have the required standings for access. The easiest way to access the starting agents is get their Corporation standing above +5.00 along with Faction above -2.00 standing.

However, to get that standing you're gonna have to work 'The Plan'.....

Anyway, that's about it. Once you have gained the Corporation standing to access the lv 4 Epic Arcs, all you have to do is maintain the Faction above -2.00 standing. Then whenever needed, just run the appropriate Epic Arc. The only other fast option available is to work the Data Center Agents for both Amarr and Gallente, more or less at the same time.

Hope this info helps and thanks for posting.


DMC