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Tech 3 Destroyers in Inferno?!?

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#1 - 2012-04-27 12:56:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Book
I have heard it mentioned as an idea for many months now but never stated as a feature coming out. I for one would really like to see it happen. I believe CCP can learn from the leasons of T3 cruisers and make the roll out even better this time. Can we get any word on this please?


PS
We are still waiting for covert cynos on Covert T3 cruisers P
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#2 - 2012-04-27 12:59:03 UTC
Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it!
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-04-27 13:00:23 UTC
there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers

ever

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#4 - 2012-04-27 13:00:43 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it!



You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump!
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#5 - 2012-04-27 13:03:09 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
there shouldnt be any other T3 ship type other than cruisers

ever


I am pretty sure worm hole people, new players, and other veterans would disagree with you. Thanks for your opinion though.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#6 - 2012-04-27 13:15:58 UTC
Shepard Book wrote:
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it!



You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump!


Im not sure what your refering to to be honest with you :D Did you post in a topic i made at some stage? :P
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-04-27 13:20:35 UTC
Title is misleading...

We talking Tech 3 or Tier 3...never can be really sure anymore.

I am all for new ships and designs...especially of the Tech 3 kind because they are more customizable in designs making them a little more unique to each person. Sorta...

Unfortunately, introducing new ships for the sake of new ships is a bad idea. They need to have a purpose and a reason for existing first. After that I am all for it.

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Lucas Schuyler
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-27 13:30:29 UTC
The problem with new Tech 3 ships is you need a really good plan for their capabilities. Just taking T3 Cruisers and doing the same thing but in a smaller hull is kind of pointless.

What is going to be the role of these modular... destroyers?

From where I sit, Cruisers work because they are already a very generalist ship class, Combat ships, Recon Ships, Logistics, etc. Cruiser hulls were already used for a wide variety of purposes. The gold standard of general purpose.

Destroyers are an anti-frigate platform and for interdiction... That is not a lot to work with for a modular design.

And on the PVE side... what Destroyer can be expected to stand up to Sleepers? It really doesn't have the requisite PVE niche.
Hicksimus
Torgue
#9 - 2012-04-27 13:53:06 UTC
I would love to buy a covert nullified destroyer with a sig radius of 1 and 150k ehp. But I'm not sure that would be good for anything other than trolling.

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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
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#10 - 2012-04-27 14:01:44 UTC
Last I heard the next shipment of T3 goodies would be coming out in 2013 at the earliest, unless things have changed.

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#11 - 2012-04-27 21:46:42 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Shepard Book wrote:
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Wheres the dislike button? I cant find it!



You have been waiting to get me back huh. Hehe, good show. Thanks for the bump!


Im not sure what your refering to to be honest with you :D Did you post in a topic i made at some stage? :P


I used same verbiage not to far back hehe
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#12 - 2012-04-27 21:47:31 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
Title is misleading...

We talking Tech 3 or Tier 3...never can be really sure anymore.

I am all for new ships and designs...especially of the Tech 3 kind because they are more customizable in designs making them a little more unique to each person. Sorta...

Unfortunately, introducing new ships for the sake of new ships is a bad idea. They need to have a purpose and a reason for existing first. After that I am all for it.


Yeah, Your right thanks and I will update it. Tech 3 all the way!
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#13 - 2012-04-27 21:49:20 UTC
Lucas Schuyler wrote:
The problem with new Tech 3 ships is you need a really good plan for their capabilities. Just taking T3 Cruisers and doing the same thing but in a smaller hull is kind of pointless.

What is going to be the role of these modular... destroyers?

From where I sit, Cruisers work because they are already a very generalist ship class, Combat ships, Recon Ships, Logistics, etc. Cruiser hulls were already used for a wide variety of purposes. The gold standard of general purpose.

Destroyers are an anti-frigate platform and for interdiction... That is not a lot to work with for a modular design.

And on the PVE side... what Destroyer can be expected to stand up to Sleepers? It really doesn't have the requisite PVE niche.



Good questions. I have seen quite a few ideas in the CSM and features areas that could be incorporated.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-04-27 21:58:22 UTC
I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar.
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#15 - 2012-04-27 21:58:54 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
I would love to buy a covert nullified destroyer with a sig radius of 1 and 150k ehp. But I'm not sure that would be good for anything other than trolling.


Trolls gotta fly too hehe.

Interdictor along with stealth ships are my favorite ships TBH.

I am not sure I like the idea but a limited anti stealth destroyer is one idea for modular I could see working, Id like it to be a short range anti stealth bubble so it could still be countered though. Same size as current dictor bubble I think is a place for them but it should never make flying stealth obsolete. I believe we could take on the challenge as long as it is not grid wide. Maybe the same size as current bubbles could work though. I think it is important to remove local as an intel tool before any kind of counter or nerf to stealth comes in though.


Maybe even a mini command with one slot for a command module?

Id really like to see a T3 stealther dictor to be able to travel with Black Ops BS.

Just a few ideas. I am not claiming any as my own.
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#16 - 2012-04-27 21:59:47 UTC
Michael1995 wrote:
Last I heard the next shipment of T3 goodies would be coming out in 2013 at the earliest, unless things have changed.


Thanks for the heads up. I wish we could get some confirmation.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#17 - 2012-04-27 22:00:33 UTC
can we please get a teir 2 destroyer before we even consider "TECH 3" destroyer here?
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#18 - 2012-04-27 22:01:28 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar.


I have the skills ( Mains ) for all of them but mainly I have flown the Loki so can't say from personal experience but the trolls seem to talk about tengu a lot.
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#19 - 2012-04-27 22:02:07 UTC
ITTigerClawIK wrote:
can we please get a teir 2 destroyer before we even consider "TECH 3" destroyer here?


Interdictors fill that role I thought.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#20 - 2012-04-27 22:10:25 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
I despide Tech 3 cruisers and what they stand for. The tengu/loki/proteus all need nerfs, tbh the Legion is what tech 3's should be. Adaptable to an extent but against a ship fit for the same role it should be subpar.



let me translate. "i am angry i didnt train for a tengu loki or proteus"

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