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I am a miner and Hulkamuderwhatever is coming!
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#1 - 2012-04-27 00:39:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Patri Andari
TLDR: Do not mine in an exhumer. Period and full stop. Mine cheaply and use insurance to buffer any losses. You will win EVE in the process.

So you wonder what to do? Have no fear as I have answers for you.

First of all remember that you have options in this sand box and you can choose to be either a victim or not. Most likely you fit comfortably into one of the groups listed below, but if not modify the advice to fit your situation.


A. Single or multiple account miner (frigate, cruiser, battleship barge or exhumer) with no Orca support in high security.

B. Multiple account miner ( frigate, cruiser, battleship barge or exhumer) with Orca support in high security.



If A. Park all T2 ships and fittings for the next few weeks and fit a T1 suitcase (damage control), T1 drones (scout and/or logistics) T1 mining modules and upgrades, T1 cargo expanders and T1 rigs. Buy insurance on all your ships and price BPCs for them as well in case you need them. Get jump clones with no implants whatsoever.

Carry on as you have in the past. Idiots will blow up you ships at a loss. Replace them and go on with your business.


If B. Fist part is the same: Park all T2 ships and fittings for the next few weeks and fit a T1 suitcase (damage control), T1 drones (scout and/or logistics) T1 mining modules and upgrades, T1 cargo expanders and T1 rigs. Buy insurance on all your ships and price BPCs for them as well in case you need them. Get jump clones with no implants whatsoever.

Fit your Insured Orca with a suitcase and hull upgrade in the lows. Fit the mids with cap rechargers. In the high slots fit a siege (shield harmonics) and a mining laser optimization module as well as a medium remote hull repair module. In the drone bay, 5 light armor bots, 5 light shield bots and 5 scout drones.

Everything should be T1 including rigs and should be insured.

You will die, but who gives a ****. No matter what, horde away some of your ore so that prices stay high! You will then have your revenge.

Be careful what you think, for your thoughts become your words. Be careful what you say, for your words become your actions. Be careful what you do, for your actions become your character. And character is everything. - author unknown
Apophis Veldar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-04-27 00:52:11 UTC
Or you could just fit your hulks with faction/deadspace/officer mods and lol at the gankers when they come for you. It works, true story.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#3 - 2012-04-27 00:54:07 UTC
Patri Andari wrote:


You will die, but who gives a ****. No matter what, horde away some of your ore so that prices stay high! You will then have your revenge.


Low mineral prices are one of the many reasons why gankers be ganking. Besides, not all gankers are strictly pvp folks. How many of them do you think are industrialists with an agenda?

Adapt or Die
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
#4 - 2012-04-27 00:56:40 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
Patri Andari wrote:


You will die, but who gives a ****. No matter what, horde away some of your ore so that prices stay high! You will then have your revenge.


Low mineral prices are one of the many reasons why gankers be ganking. Besides, not all gankers are strictly pvp folks. How many of them do you think are industrialists with an agenda?


not many

Be careful what you think, for your thoughts become your words. Be careful what you say, for your words become your actions. Be careful what you do, for your actions become your character. And character is everything. - author unknown
Ashrun Dir
Love for You
#5 - 2012-04-27 02:09:55 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
Patri Andari wrote:


You will die, but who gives a ****. No matter what, horde away some of your ore so that prices stay high! You will then have your revenge.


Low mineral prices are one of the many reasons why gankers be ganking. Besides, not all gankers are strictly pvp folks. How many of them do you think are industrialists with an agenda?


http://tagn.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/hulkageddon-technetium-and-the-circle-of-life/
Eryn Velasquez
#6 - 2012-04-27 06:27:04 UTC
Apophis Veldar wrote:
Or you could just fit your hulks with faction/deadspace/officer mods and lol at the gankers when they come for you. It works, true story.


Oh, really?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13162422

_“A man's freedom consists in his being able to do whatever he wills, but that he should not, by any human power, be forced to do what is against his will.” ― Jean-Jacques Rousseau _
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-04-27 08:47:02 UTC
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
Apophis Veldar wrote:
Or you could just fit your hulks with faction/deadspace/officer mods and lol at the gankers when they come for you. It works, true story.


Oh, really?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13162422


Probably afk :p

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Nightowl Agnew
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-04-27 09:24:17 UTC
i am looking forward to gankers trying there luck, me and my corp mates ready for them be so much fun.

NightOwl Out
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#9 - 2012-04-27 11:01:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Patri Andari wrote:
TLDR: Do not mine in an exhumer. Period and full stop. Mine cheaply and use insurance to buffer any losses. You will win EVE in the process.

So you wonder what to do? Have no fear as I have answers for you.


Are you nervous or something about H'geddon ?

Besides, with the nerf to mining yield here, one is better off mission running for the month anyway.

And I know as this will be my 4th H'geddon.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Rhondas
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-04-27 11:05:47 UTC
Apophis Veldar wrote:
Or you could just fit your hulks with faction/deadspace/officer mods and lol at the gankers when they come for you. It works, true story.



as a miner, i have to say i fully agree with this gentleman.
Sahara Uhuru
#11 - 2012-04-27 12:32:33 UTC
I think I'll watch hulkageddon from the cockpit of my buffer tanked commandship with siege and mining ganglinks running.
Ehnea Mehk
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-27 15:39:31 UTC
"Park all T2 ships and fittings for the next few weeks and fit a T1 suitcase (damage control), T1 drones (scout and/or logistics) T1 mining modules and upgrades, T1 cargo expanders and T1 rigs. Buy insurance on all your ships and price BPCs for them as well in case you need them. Get jump clones with no implants whatsoever."

Great suggestion. You'll have to work your keyster a little harder, but you won't be as big a target. No one is going to blow their security and ISK on dollar store tech.

My former corpmates and I have been pushing this point throughout Hulkageddon III and IV.

Ehnea
Boomhaur
#13 - 2012-04-28 10:04:04 UTC
Mining

Do it in a Kestrel.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#14 - 2012-04-28 12:43:49 UTC
"Hey, where do all these ships we fly come from?"

"People build them."

"Out of what?"

"Minerals."

"Where do those come from?"

"Mining ships."

"Let's go blow up all the mining ships! Then there when all the other ships get blown up, including ours, there won't be any replacements! The entire game will slowly grind to a halt! Everyone loses!"

"Excellent idea, let's get right on it!"

Goonswarm logic at it's finest.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#15 - 2012-04-28 13:12:09 UTC
Ehnea Mehk wrote:


No one is going to blow their security and ISK on dollar store tech.




Oh yes they will indeed. Many times over. They care not.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2012-04-28 13:12:56 UTC
Boomhaur wrote:
Mining

Do it in a Kestrel.



Drone Poop is gone. Out with thee...............

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#17 - 2012-04-28 14:02:34 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
"Hey, where do all these ships we fly come from?"

"People build them."

"Out of what?"

"Minerals."

"Where do those come from?"

"Mining ships."

"Let's go blow up all the mining ships! Then there when all the other ships get blown up, including ours, there won't be any replacements! The entire game will slowly grind to a halt! Everyone loses!"

"Excellent idea, let's get right on it!"

Goonswarm logic at it's finest.




Are you sure you know where minerals come from, Cause not all of them are from mining. Also hulkageddon is primarily a hi sec event. Most of nullsec / wormholeers continue to mine away pointing there fingers laughin at hi sec.

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.
Daphny Naarma
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-04-28 14:34:52 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
"Hey, where do all these ships we fly come from?"

"People build them."

"Out of what?"

"Minerals."

"Where do those come from?"

"Mining ships."

"Let's go blow up all the mining ships! Then there when all the other ships get blown up, including ours, there won't be any replacements! The entire game will slowly grind to a halt! Everyone loses!"

"Excellent idea, let's get right on it!"

Goonswarm logic at it's finest.


Not that I feel comfortable defending goons, but... you do realize the effect of above actions really do nothing more than change some prices slightly - if that?

It's like saying raising the speed limits on some road will make all cars crash and humans as a race will be extinct. The effect is there, but you are not grasping the width (or, more the point - lack thereof) of the concept.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#19 - 2012-04-28 15:05:17 UTC
Daphny Naarma wrote:
[Not that I feel comfortable defending goons, but... you do realize the effect of above actions really do nothing more than change some prices slightly - if that?


You should be ashamed for typing that: http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2012/04/week-in-life-bottleneck.html

Just slightly....................

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Amber Solaire
COMA Holdings
Cosmic Maniacs
#20 - 2012-04-28 16:09:01 UTC
StonerPhReaK wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
"Hey, where do all these ships we fly come from?"

"People build them."

"Out of what?"

"Minerals."

"Where do those come from?"

"Mining ships."

"Let's go blow up all the mining ships! Then there when all the other ships get blown up, including ours, there won't be any replacements! The entire game will slowly grind to a halt! Everyone loses!"

"Excellent idea, let's get right on it!"

Goonswarm logic at it's finest.




Are you sure you know where minerals come from, Cause not all of them are from mining. Also hulkageddon is primarily a hi sec event. Most of nullsec / wormholeers continue to mine away pointing there fingers laughin at hi sec.



RollYou can get plenty of minerals from meta0 loot and Rogue drones!.........oh wait, that was just nerfed........
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