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HULKAGEDDON V (discuss)

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#41 - 2012-05-12 17:39:42 UTC
DR Quantom wrote:
Now is the time for Miners to rise up, We need to flex our power and Gank mineral prices, If Anyopne can impact and influence the Game, its the Miners raise your prices and dont sell cheap.

Why don't you guys form a miner's union? A mining corp with a mineral bank in which member's can deposit minerals during fat times they can later withdraw to sell during Hulkageddon times? So members' incomes aren't disrupted during Hulkageddons? And insurance on top of that.
Hrothgar Nilsson
#42 - 2012-05-13 15:48:38 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
We have had about 14 accounts in our alliance unsubbed for the next month or two, I hardly see this event as being good for CCP. It doesn't effect me personally as I don't mine, but it bothers me to see people not being able to log on and play because of big bad wussies wanting to mass scale pvp non combat ships. If it were just a week long thing I doubt anyone would not have resubbed.

Boycott Hulks.

It's like buying a Ford, and somebody from the Ford Motor Co. comes out once a year and destroys your car. Then you buy another Ford.

In all of the discussions on what miners actions miners can take in response to Hulkageddon, not once has anybody suggested not purchasing Goon/NA-produced Hulks.

Don't buy them, don't use them, cajole and bully other miners into doing the same. Problem solved.
Lonnie Jouhinen
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-05-13 20:51:06 UTC
To me it seems it is all about the Killboard and Value of item destroyed.

Mine in an Ibis...See who brags about that kill.
Erroch
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#44 - 2012-05-15 14:22:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Erroch
Lonnie Jouhinen wrote:
To me it seems it is all about the Killboard and Value of item destroyed.

Mine in an Ibis...See who brags about that kill.


Most miners I know arn't really bothered that much. It's the same rules as it's always been, find a quiet place, stay aligned, watch local. As an added bonus, low sec tends to get a little bit quieter with so many of the pirates ganking in high sec. And in Low Secyou know everyone in local there is probably looking to kill you.

I suggest heading to low sec for the month. It is better ore, easier to determine risk, and best of all, you'll keep making profit while the mineral prices go up.

This is a good time to be a smart industrialist.
Mctriad
Cowlitz
The Honor Guard
#45 - 2012-05-29 19:37:31 UTC
Goons Announced via twitter hulkageden 5 payouts will go on indefinitely.

I'll be happy to donate isk to the Indefinite GOONAGEDDON bounty wallet.
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-05-29 22:12:38 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
I am surprised that CCP is allowing this happy horseshit to go on so long. A month of allowing gankbears to harrass other paying customers seems like bad business sense to me. Don't give me that crap either about eve being dangerous and go play hello kitty, we have all heard it before from you unimaginative sheeple. CCP needs to decide if it wants to be a strictly pvp game so that the rest of us can just leave it behind, which of course would end the game as our money keeps this thing going strong. I for one don't mine but have friends that do, and now they aren't logging on, so don't think you are getting any miner tears from me either you bunch of ***pirates. I just think you are all pathetic losers.


I like how important he/she/it considers itself.

PS:
In the event that Bunnie actually sees this, your post is exactly the type of tears the gankers are looking for ;)
Enoch Schereau
Bird-in-Hand
#47 - 2012-06-10 23:36:50 UTC
See, this permanent expansion of Hulkageddon just proves my original point. That it is really irrelevant. Ganks were 23.5/7 before Hulkageddon ever started. No prizes were necessary for this to happen. If anything, the goons are just wasting money with their payouts, as ganks were full time already without them.

There is no real difference between a permanent Hulkageddon and not having a Hulkageddon at all. The event has now officially been fully and completely neutered.
Arcturis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-06-11 17:02:03 UTC
ya know, There are police in highsec

Im pretty sure if a bunch of crazy people started running around blowing up peoples cars the police would get involved

Just a thought CCP
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-06-15 09:26:31 UTC
You can hide your mining any way you'd like... but Heretic Army will find you and will relieve you of your horrible waste-of-ISK mining ship.

Serious question - WHO PLAYS EVE ONLINE AND CHOOSES TO MINE? MINING. REALLY? YOU LOG ON TO A GAME AND MINE. IS THAT SIMILAR TO THOSE WHO PLAY FARMVILLE?


Heretic's Never Ending Hulkageddon -
http://kbarmy.heretic-army.biz/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=5&view=kills

I'm back!

Galdor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-06-16 18:53:34 UTC
This whole event in general should have been banned years ago. It promotes and encourages bullying. This game is supposedly a realistic sandbox when there is nothing realistic about this event.

If something like this event occurred in RL they would be labelled as terrorists and hunted down, period.
Ryck Shepard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2012-06-16 23:25:35 UTC
My Advice is to create some Warp points on each end of the belt you're planning to mine in.

Gankers usually jump into the middle of the Belt, which gives you a decent amount of time to jump away.

Also create some safespots inside the system, then align to them and jump If needed. It's always better to jump to a custom location, it makes it much harder for the gankers to hunt you down.

"Work smart, not hard" - Dr. Gregory House Ryck Shepard is a young capsule pilot from the Center of Advanced Studies in Cistuvaert V.

Galdor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-06-17 17:03:38 UTC
Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.

In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#53 - 2012-06-17 17:08:06 UTC
Galdor wrote:
Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.

In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated.



Which day and age? 2012, or YC114?

If you're saying 2012, The appropriate answer is:
It's a game. HTFU.

If you're saying YC114:
There's war between the factions (see lowsec). And every Capsuleer is, effectively, their own State. Concord isn't the police. That's not their role. Their role is to smother Capsuleer on Capsuleer violence.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Ryno Caval
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-06-17 22:43:02 UTC
I'd like to see a T3 event instead of this hulkageddon all the time its tired and old Hulks are soft targets i think people should go after a real challenge Strategic Cruisers make that the next trend blowing up practically defenseless ships cant really be that thrilling but go after a strategic cruiser and hope they aren't fit to ruin your life that should put a little more spice in the game especially during those L4 mission runs (Twisted)and prices will still be high they always are miners are greedy
Galdor
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2012-06-20 14:39:16 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Galdor wrote:
Like others who have posted here, I am surprised CCP has not intervened or at the very least created an additional mechanic involving the terrorists' actions. Because that is exactly how they act and what they are. Pirates at least worry more about making profit and money and less about random violence.

In this day and age, terrorism in any form should not be tolerated.



Which day and age? 2012, or YC114?

If you're saying 2012, The appropriate answer is:
It's a game. HTFU.

If you're saying YC114:
There's war between the factions (see lowsec). And every Capsuleer is, effectively, their own State. Concord isn't the police. That's not their role. Their role is to smother Capsuleer on Capsuleer violence.


Wow, it's a game really? That's your profound reply? Yah, ya got me there... I have no defense against such sharp wit.

At any rate, neither of your arguments hold any weight due to something called an TOS.

To put it in basic words for you to understand; (it is understood CCP can't control online gameplay specifically) when players themselves specifically go out of their way to harass other gamers repeatedly by attempting to use exploit tactics in high sec space just to get a kill on a non-combat ship is breaching the license agreement.

Hopefully that wasn't too complicated to understand for you Steve. Nevermind the simple fact that it looks really sad when players attack ships that can't fight back and somehow expect others to think that's somehow impressive? lmao

As far as your little lore reference goes, there is nothing in the lore or any cut scene that encourages players to attack miners. The lore has always been about combat vessels only. You might want to work on your powers of observation skill.

Section 16: "You may not do anything that interferes with the ability of other EVE Online subscribers to enjoy the game or web site in accordance with its rules."

Section 23: "You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website" (I am referring to players using exploits to attack miners in high sec while avoiding Concord)

The above can be found at: http://community.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp
Andar Purvanen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-06-22 15:39:52 UTC
Sections 16 and 23 can be interpreted. CCP has made it clear that Hulkageddon is not a violation.

I disagree but ok, I'll have to take my gaming elsewhere. Good luck with this decision.

Griefers don't require PvP access to grief but it sure helps them. Expanding PvP access via an interminable supply of isk to buy replacements does this.

It does something else too. NPC factions and states are rendered increasingly impotent to stop the newly rising capsuleer empires. There is no longer much reason to support the state. Its just a question of player empire building.

I quit smoking that stuff years and years ago.

Death does not deter.  I will mine until you surrender.

Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#57 - 2012-06-27 04:48:29 UTC
Ryno Caval wrote:
I'd like to see a T3 event instead of this hulkageddon all the time its tired and old Hulks are soft targets i think people should go after a real challenge Strategic Cruisers make that the next trend blowing up practically defenseless ships cant really be that thrilling but go after a strategic cruiser and hope they aren't fit to ruin your life that should put a little more spice in the game especially during those L4 mission runs (Twisted)and prices will still be high they always are miners are greedy


T3s are harder to gank, and more importantly the ISK required to gank them is much higher than the ISK required to get in an arty-thrasher and gank a hulk in .5 space.

for the cost of the tornados to gank the Tengu one could likely get 100 people into Thrashers and gank a Charon.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.

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