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HULKAGEDDON V (discuss)

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Capt Derp
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-04-26 17:18:50 UTC
so am I supposed to mine in high sec during this event or...?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#2 - 2012-04-26 18:29:27 UTC
You can mine in high-sec. Well, people that don't advertise themselves as miners, can mine in high-sec.

I'd recommend not using hulks, staying well away from, well, pretty much everyone, and keeping a very close eye on local, staying aligned, and warping out at the first sign of trouble, but it's doable.

If you try mining, all fat and happy like most people, you're going to lose ships and pods.

Have fun :)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Katja Faith
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-04-26 20:16:46 UTC
Grav sites and mission sites. Today's gankers are too lazy to put any real effort into finding someone not in a belt.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#4 - 2012-04-27 17:11:28 UTC
As if mineral prices are not high enough already, lets keep them climbing.

It really sux that the gank ships needed for HULKAGEDDON are so much more expensive right now.

Although I am a miner I truly believe HULKAGEDDON is actually good for the EVE economy as a whole. It gives the market a nice little boost every year which usually takes a few months to subside.

However this year with the timing coinciding with the big BOT purge, and the Drone alloys nerf, we may be in for quite the roller coaster ride yet before the prices get any where near stable.

Just a note for all the avid PVPers out there. Miners will now be the primary source of minerals in EVE, no more gun mining or drone alloys to drive prices down. The more unsafe miners feel the higher the prices will get. Just keep that in mind when you are paying over a bil for a ship you could buy for a few hundred mil a few months ago.

Gankers have been harvesting tiers from miners for a long time now. But it is now time for the miners to harvest the teirs of those same gankers crying about the price of their ships.

Let the games begin...
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#5 - 2012-04-27 19:24:54 UTC
You could also try mining in a ship that isn't specifically designed for mining. If someone scans you down and they see a Battlecruiser, they have no idea if you're just missioning or if you're mining unless they take the time to confirm visually.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

DR Quantom
Spaceleys Sprockets
#6 - 2012-04-27 21:28:44 UTC
Big smile
Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
As if mineral prices are not high enough already, lets keep them climbing.

It really sux that the gank ships needed for HULKAGEDDON are so much more expensive right now.

Although I am a miner I truly believe HULKAGEDDON is actually good for the EVE economy as a whole. It gives the market a nice little boost every year which usually takes a few months to subside.

However this year with the timing coinciding with the big BOT purge, and the Drone alloys nerf, we may be in for quite the roller coaster ride yet before the prices get any where near stable.

Just a note for all the avid PVPers out there. Miners will now be the primary source of minerals in EVE, no more gun mining or drone alloys to drive prices down. The more unsafe miners feel the higher the prices will get. Just keep that in mind when you are paying over a bil for a ship you could buy for a few hundred mil a few months ago.

Gankers have been harvesting tiers from miners for a long time now. But it is now time for the miners to harvest the teirs of those same gankers crying about the price of their ships.

Let the games begin...



Now is the time for Miners to rise up, We need to flex our power and Gank mineral prices, If Anyopne can impact and influence the Game, its the Miners raise your prices and dont sell cheap.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2012-04-27 21:48:38 UTC
http://hulkageddon5.machine9.net/

ladies and gentlethings,

The Hulkageddon V website is now operational, all the details about your favorite event are inside!

KILL SHIPS! MAKE MONEY! WIN PRIZES!

BURN EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!
ItchyJuffoWup
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-04-27 22:36:53 UTC
The main thing to remember is be smart when you're mining. dont go afk, always align, and watch local. theres no reason if youre paying attention that you'll get ganked. when i mined in the past i would always mine out my missions i could pick up an easy 10-mil or more doing that. Katja was right. most gankers wont take the time to scan you down. we just run the belts.

"Insert witty quote from some old dead poet here"

Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#9 - 2012-04-27 22:49:24 UTC
This is the first one I've been around for and even though I'm not participating I think it's pretty awesome and my mining alt is going to get a little rusty but whatever. I like the fact crazy stuff like this happens in this game.
Vechtor
DuPont Enterprises
Perpetual Alliance
#10 - 2012-04-28 02:13:16 UTC
Hulkageddon is good for CCP. As the bots cleaning was good for CCP the same way.
Wiping off miners and making ships more expensive is good for CCP because PVP'ers won't cry and complain because ships have become more expensive, they'll simply buy more PLEXes.

Which is all of this about.

Cheers,

Vechtor


Naes Mlahrend
Devil's Horsemen
#11 - 2012-04-28 02:43:28 UTC
Won't bother me when I can "safely" pull the miner out again and sell more ore for so much more!
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#12 - 2012-04-28 03:08:41 UTC
For once in a very long time, mining will become a profitable and respectable profession. It will be worth the risk of mining with gankers in the vicinity once mineral prices go up.

Adapt or Die

Geoscape
Unleashed' Fury
The Initiative.
#13 - 2012-04-28 13:08:53 UTC
Consider mining in lowsec.

Rather than worrying about which of the locals are gankers looking to ruin your day, you can mine in lowsec knowing that everyone is out to get you, much more simple!
Khaymann Draven
Scortched Earth Inc
#14 - 2012-04-28 18:42:46 UTC
Geoscape wrote:
Consider mining in lowsec.

Rather than worrying about which of the locals are gankers looking to ruin your day, you can mine in lowsec knowing that everyone is out to get you, much more simple!


And much better ore
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#15 - 2012-04-28 21:07:49 UTC
Indeed low sec mining has its merit. Better Ores, less cluttered local, and after a while you know your neighbours. It goes like "PI Char, Blue, Blue, ┬┤nother PI char, ops... time to go now"
Enoch Schereau
Bird-in-Hand
#16 - 2012-04-29 13:40:26 UTC
Hulkageddon is a Joke. I mean, I can appreciate the concept and like when there are large-scale player-created events. But Hulkageddon is getting old.

There are really three problems with it. Two major, one minor.

First, the minor problem: It is old and not very original. It really needs some changing up to keep it interesting. But this is a minor issue.

The major issues are this:
1) Gankers abound and pretty much kill hulks all the time, everywhere. So you would be very hard pressed to find things to be all that differrent during Hulkageddon than before it started. So this really makes it feel like a non-event. Good miners are used to always being on the lookout for ganks. Now, this could be at least partly remedied except for the second major issue:

2) Hulkageddon is scheduled for too long a period. Four weeks is far too long. Now, there's no real sense of urgency for anyone participating. A participant can figure, "well, I have a whole month, so I'll just get around to ganking whenever it is convenient" - which spreads it out and dilutes it to the point that, even if there were increased activity over regular ganking (see issue 1 above), it will be diluted over 4 weeks so as to be drowned out by the bankground noise of regular ganking.

If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most, then it would feed a sense of urgency and would really be noticable. Sort of like the burn Jita event - which is for a day or so at most - looking at the kill list, it is definitely noticeable.

As it stands, though, Hulkgeddon is a tired, old thing, spread out over too long a time, such that I doubt anyone will notice much difference from the 24/7 gankfest that is normal Eve mining.
Jack Corigan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-04-29 22:19:02 UTC
Enoch Schereau wrote:

If the event were concentrated - over a single weekend, or say 4 days at most


I agreed with you for that part. 1 Month is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too long. The 100m per 10 kills is just -.- . It stopped being any fun for miners and just becomes unsub time, i know my 3 accounts wont be active for the duration of this. My corp has been the attack of a lot of ganks since hulkageddon was announced and we simply cant be bothered with even more. Its all great for the null sec alliances who have the capability to throw out the thousands of ships to replace the ones lost during this, but for small time corps its just bullying.

Suicide ganking as a mechanic really has to be reassessed by CCP, its used far too much by too many people.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#18 - 2012-04-30 09:38:29 UTC
We have had about 14 accounts in our alliance unsubbed for the next month or two, I hardly see this event as being good for CCP. It doesn't effect me personally as I don't mine, but it bothers me to see people not being able to log on and play because of big bad wussies wanting to mass scale pvp non combat ships. If it were just a week long thing I doubt anyone would not have resubbed.
Mikeyeve
Bio Derp
#19 - 2012-04-30 11:21:15 UTC
Every ones seen suicide ganks before and even been hit by them so i agree seeing hulks pop to destroyers is nothing great anymore it's old and tired.


But hang on....teir 3 BC's, Shiney orca's. Nope it could still be fun. Smile
Samroski
Middle-Earth
#20 - 2012-04-30 13:44:37 UTC
What miners need to do is to gang up as well. Miners should have a concurrent event like Hulkocalypse, where they support each other.

Great time for mining corps, who can organize "safe" mining ops. Heh heh.

Any colour you like.

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