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The wormhole nomad: living in w-space without a POS
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discordigant
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-04-26 23:50:21 UTC
While this lifestyle is not for me, this was a nice write up worth reading with many good tips for people wanting to give it a go.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-04-27 01:00:02 UTC
I did this for a while in a C2 wolf-rayet star where we didn't want to drop a tower. Cloaky Orca, dual Enyos, dual salvage catalysts (back before noctis).

Now that Orcas are so bloody expensive I'm a little more hesitant to use it :p

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#23 - 2012-04-27 05:21:25 UTC
Nice writeup. When WHs was new I did some solo, nomadic, ore-mining with a Orca in C4's... Just because it was the most idiotic thing you could do back then.. Not at all time/ISK efficient, but someone said it could not be done, and that was enough of a reason for me :)

What I don't get thou, is just how much effort people keep put into doing stuff solo.. This in a game where everything team-related is often much more interesting and efficient.

Got blog: http://thecloakedones.blogspot.com
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#24 - 2012-04-27 07:22:29 UTC
Floppie,

these are the things that make EVE great. Props :)

- R

.
bartos100
Living Ghost
#25 - 2012-04-27 08:55:01 UTC
i did some looking in the same direction after spending some time in C2 WH with a small tower

then i looked at the prises for an orca atm and for the prise of an unfitted orca i can get a fully fitted large amarr tower (not counting fuel)
and a fully fitted large tower is less likely to be destroyed then an orca

that and the fact that i don't have the skills to fly an orca yet ispointing me towards the POS option instead of the orca

if orca prisec where about half of what they are now i would go orca and load a small tower in the orca in case i find a WH with a lot of sites to do and no active locals
TunaKross
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-04-27 09:25:10 UTC
I hope we see you out there, since i would be pretty glad to pop your setup after reading this thread....Roll
Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#27 - 2012-04-27 13:23:26 UTC
Gonna leave this here: http://exhale.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13161621

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Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-27 15:16:08 UTC
I tried this for a little bit too a good long while ago, but personally I like keeping a POS in the orca as it gives a safe place to store said orca and allows you to get more characters into sites. Just find an empty moon, toss the POS up, leave the orca there, and use 2 PvE ships to run sites, come clean up with a noctis when done, and when you're done running for the day, take the POS down and safe up. Also makes it easier if you only have 2 characters, and your salvager is your orca pilot...

-Arazel
Hondo Stryker
Grey Schatten
#29 - 2012-04-27 17:22:41 UTC
Thanks for sharing Floppie -- I really like this idea...

Did you do anything special with your Legion fit other than the probe launcher?

I wish I had the time to try this (only 2 accts though) ... Maybe later this summer....

Good luck on your next adventure!
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-04-27 18:26:07 UTC
Arazel Chainfire wrote:
I tried this for a little bit too a good long while ago, but personally I like keeping a POS in the orca as it gives a safe place to store said orca and allows you to get more characters into sites. Just find an empty moon, toss the POS up, leave the orca there, and use 2 PvE ships to run sites, come clean up with a noctis when done, and when you're done running for the day, take the POS down and safe up. Also makes it easier if you only have 2 characters, and your salvager is your orca pilot...

-Arazel

isn't having a bare pos with just an orca in it just as dangerous? i mean, whoever sees the pos will know that you are bound to come back and will then gladly kill your noctis, combat ships, pos AND the orca.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
#31 - 2012-04-27 20:36:24 UTC
Donthin Starlance wrote:
Do you think the Noctis is enough better than a looting destroyer to justify the cost? Helped a corp mate a while back hit a Noctis that was cleaning up after a Tengu, we scored all his NR and he had to eat the 65mil for the ship as well.


No. Use a looting destroyer. The bonus to noctis is the tractor beam reach, put a MWD on a destroyer and it fits easier into the ORCA. Also a cloaky tengu with the right setup (not willing to share just yet, if/when we loose one I'll share it :P) works best for a scout, then a non-cloaking tengu with the right setup (again not willing to share just yet) work excelent for running sites. You can fit the t3, the destroyer, and a crane or other hauler into the orca. This means you can haul out your loot with minimal risk without having to jump the orca out.

The cycle time bonus on the salvagers you get from the noctis is not that big of a deal. Once you learn to run the sites correctly you can clump up the wrecks so they are all almost right within tractor range.
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
#32 - 2012-04-27 20:42:25 UTC
bartos100 wrote:
i did some looking in the same direction after spending some time in C2 WH with a small tower

then i looked at the prises for an orca atm and for the prise of an unfitted orca i can get a fully fitted large amarr tower (not counting fuel)
and a fully fitted large tower is less likely to be destroyed then an orca

that and the fact that i don't have the skills to fly an orca yet ispointing me towards the POS option instead of the orca

if orca prisec where about half of what they are now i would go orca and load a small tower in the orca in case i find a WH with a lot of sites to do and no active locals


If the tower is less likely to be destroyed than the Orca, you still have much learning to do.
Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#33 - 2012-04-27 21:58:47 UTC
Quote:
Also a cloaky tengu with the right setup (not willing to share just yet, if/when we loose one I'll share it :P) works best for a scout, then a non-cloaking tengu with the right setup (again not willing to share just yet) work excelent for running sites. You can fit the t3, the destroyer, and a crane or other hauler into the orca. This means you can haul out your loot with minimal risk without having to jump the orca out.

You got a cloaky, and you need a Crane to get sleeper loot out?

Got blog: http://thecloakedones.blogspot.com
Nendail Smith
Lockheed Nighthawk
#34 - 2012-04-27 22:01:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nendail Smith
Ashimat wrote:
Quote:
Also a cloaky tengu with the right setup (not willing to share just yet, if/when we loose one I'll share it :P) works best for a scout, then a non-cloaking tengu with the right setup (again not willing to share just yet) work excelent for running sites. You can fit the t3, the destroyer, and a crane or other hauler into the orca. This means you can haul out your loot with minimal risk without having to jump the orca out.

You got a cloaky, and you need a Crane to get sleeper loot out?


If you have to ask, you must go to highsec far more often than we do. :) That's all I'm saying. :P
Ashimat
Clandestine Services
#35 - 2012-04-27 22:08:37 UTC
Nendail Smith wrote:
Ashimat wrote:
Quote:
Also a cloaky tengu with the right setup (not willing to share just yet, if/when we loose one I'll share it :P) works best for a scout, then a non-cloaking tengu with the right setup (again not willing to share just yet) work excelent for running sites. You can fit the t3, the destroyer, and a crane or other hauler into the orca. This means you can haul out your loot with minimal risk without having to jump the orca out.

You got a cloaky, and you need a Crane to get sleeper loot out?


If you have to ask, you must go to highsec far more often than we do. :) That's all I'm saying. :P

Haha, maybe. I dump the scrap metal for starters... And I value the luxury of not having to worry about bubbles to much to be using transports Big smile

Got blog: http://thecloakedones.blogspot.com
Mila Ito
El Diablo en Camones
#36 - 2012-04-28 05:11:44 UTC
Can I ask how the Orca was fitted (besides the high slots and the prop mod)?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#37 - 2012-04-29 20:43:37 UTC
Mila Ito wrote:
Can I ask how the Orca was fitted (besides the high slots and the prop mod)?

warp core stabs in case it got caught (never needed them), and cap rechargers to squeeze out a few extra cycles from the reps.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Mila Ito
El Diablo en Camones
#38 - 2012-04-30 09:00:00 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Mila Ito wrote:
Can I ask how the Orca was fitted (besides the high slots and the prop mod)?

warp core stabs in case it got caught (never needed them), and cap rechargers to squeeze out a few extra cycles from the reps.


Cool thanks, can I ask about rigs? I'm considering following your footsteps and thought agility rigs would be best?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-04-30 10:52:34 UTC
Mila Ito wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Mila Ito wrote:
Can I ask how the Orca was fitted (besides the high slots and the prop mod)?

warp core stabs in case it got caught (never needed them), and cap rechargers to squeeze out a few extra cycles from the reps.


Cool thanks, can I ask about rigs? I'm considering following your footsteps and thought agility rigs would be best?

afaik you need extra powergrid rigs to fit a 100mn MWD on an orca. can't check right now though

I should buy an Ishtar.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#40 - 2012-04-30 12:28:27 UTC
It's got one large ancillary, and two agility rigs.

I do have to put the MWD offline to use the remote reps. It's easy enough to do: just offline the MWD, online the rep I need, and cloak while the cap recharges.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.