EVE General Discussion

This is borderline with griefing.

The petition lines will get filled, if this ever was implemented.

Aggressors leaving and rejoining to evade camps isn't actually particularly common, but the people who do that sort of thing abuse it endlessly. I'm kind of on the fence as it whether or not it really needs a mechanics change because I think from a general gameplay perspective it's better for people to have the freedom to join and leave corps at will with as little bullshit as possible.

A bigger problem is being able to accept people into corp while they are logged on and in space. That **** is no good and they need to make it so you can't do it.

I've been playing Eve for quite a few years now, one of my main accounts is from 2003 and I have yet to be forced to play my game as others want me too and that should never change.

My main corp is pure pve based and this corp is one of the few I have setting around that I could run too when a dec come along. After the wardec "fix" later this month when a dec comes along I will take down my POS and drop out to an NPC corp and continue to do my thing (minus the use of the POS now) till the dec goes away. The only way a wardec will hurt me after the "fix" is that I will lose the use of my POS, which actually would kinda suck as it does help generate a fair bit of ISK.

Here's a weird thought:
What if it was possible for an indi corp to dec a pvp corp and they were forced to put up a POS to do research, mine, manufacture and make lots of ISK instead of what they wanted to do (pvp). I'm sure the pvp corps would want a way out so they could play Eve the way they want too am I right?

I can pvp but haven't done it in forever (don't wanna), done WH/null/low sec large alliances etc. and to me it all sux as there is too much childish drama. I'm an older dude that just wants to play how I want to play and not be forced to do what others think I should be doing, if one day I am forced to play how others think I should be playing sadly I will have no choice but find another game to move on to, hopefully that will never happen as I love Eve and is my 1st and only MMO I've ever wanted play.

\o/ all HI SEC POS's will be safe

Dafuq? No... just no... gtfo.

This is the only vaguely reasonable part of your post, and this needs implementing asap.

All that would accomplish is older players like myself using up stashed away PLEX while station skilling or newer people leaving the game completely (if they didn't want to fight) cuz they couldn't play.

I support the idea of wardecs but locking toons in a corp under war is a bit harsh.

I don't understand why players who complain about how bad the wardec system is don't get together and pew each other, you are the ones wanting to fight so why not fight each other and let others play Eve as they would like? Unless all you guys want is no skill kills then I guess more power to ya if that is what floats your boat.

My concern with the dev blog post (didn't see the video, no audio for the moment) is that being in a corp with a perpetual war dec effectively locks you into (or out of) being in that corp.

"We're also looking into not allowing you to join a corp you've left during a war while that war is still ongoing."

Consider large null alliances that are in perpetual war dec. This effectively locks out members that occasionally jump to highsec corps to do highsec things. Occasionally I join my friends highsec corp and help him with his wardecs. With this mechanic that is no longer possible. In this case you'd actually be preventing someone from partaking in a war as the dec system has no effect on a nullsec alliance. If I cannot help my friend I have no reason to go to highsec and therefore would not be a target to the deccing alliance anyway.

I'm also wonder what happens with corps like red vs blue. If you left you could never rejoin.

I support doing things to prevent corp hopping but there are times when it's legit to change corps on the fly, even if the involved corps are at war. I do support a cool down timer of 24 hours to leave a war decced corp. Sorta like corp stasis? But only if it doesn't require joining an NPC corp. My corp history is cluttered enough without throwing in an NPC corp in-between.

Putting a simple timer on corp hopping is the easiest solution. Make it so that you can't change corps more often then once every 24h. Possibly a 48h or 72h timer if you dropped out of a corp with an *outbound* wardec.

Make it so that the change doesn't take effect until either the next session change or downtime (whichever comes first). That (mostly) fixes the exploit where you can become a valid wartarget while out in space, but still also allows directors to kick players who refuse to dock (it just won't take effect until downtime).

If highsec become any "less safe" player base would drop, if it become anything like you mentioned above people like myself would go away all together, that would mean far less no skill kills for players like you and most importantly less RL money for CCP so nothing like that will never happen. Not to mention the prices of most everything that we manufacture in highsec would skyrocket as nobody would be producing anything cuz we would be too busy playing another persons game and not our own.

It seems to me that most who complain about how easy it is to get out of a wardec just want easy kills so why would you want to make it harder for us carebears to get a foot hold in highsec? If you were my prey I would want to make it as easy as I possibly could to get you to play in my backyard so I could shoot you from my deck in my undies.

Just put a randomizer into effect whenever someone joins/leaves a corp involved in a wardec.

Use a base time of 24 hours with a 6 hour standard deviation if someone tries to get in/out of the action.

That would allow people to leave or join if needed, but remove the tactical exploits.