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DESTRUCTION OF PLEX EARNED THROUGH THE BUDDY PROGRAM

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#21 - 2012-04-26 01:35:39 UTC
Why the **** do people fly around with PLEX in their holds?!? You know you can activate it from anywhere right? You know when you redeem it you get it in the hangar you are currently in right? You know that every ganker with a hard-on and a Tornado is scanning for them right? So WTF!?!? If you lose it you deserve it!

(note, normally I'm pretty mellow, but this is just ****ing stupid)

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-04-26 01:39:53 UTC
Working exactly as intended.

As people keep pointing out, there is no reason to move a PLEX if you intend to use it as a PLEX. The only reason to move it is if you intend to use it as an investment trade item, and if at that point you lose the PLEX for whatever reason, it is treated no different than any other investment trade item, including the risk of a total loss of that item.

Next time, use a wtftanked Orca. If nothing else because you can hide your failure. Blink
Arlis Kaiesta
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-04-26 13:48:12 UTC


I still feel that if the plex is given as a reward from inviting someone to the game you should get a small window to redeem it ONLY if its rendered NON redeemable through stupidity.

this only helps ccp and the player base.

THE POINT of HAVING PLEX to me IS to trade it not use it... just me... nuff said so thanks for all the comments about redeeming it... to me a half bil isk is much more attractive then more game time...

When something cool like getting someone into the game is part of the deal... it only makes sense to want to receive the reward and yes I understand I did receive it and lost it.
truth is I had no idea and had never heard of people doing this kind of thing... I do in fact live under a rock.

I went on to hear about some folks in the corp of my main that suicide ganked over 5 billion in PLEX that week from doing the very same thing.

ironic yes?

i feel so wonderful basking in my stupidity... No its a good point I should have put up a contract or something... I was hasty and foolish... I had traveled from 4 or 5 systems over and had two clients open and was not paying attention to the second client bc I had finally gotten to a security enforced system... I was "Home Free" I relaxed and went about my business relying utterly on the confines of highsec to safely bring my baby home... a very sketchy yet successful run!!! I then returned to the second client and found myself in station with a pod and nearly had heart failure... I then checked the kill mail and found that well **** NO ONE GOT THE DAMN THING!!! my tears were indeed sweet...
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#24 - 2012-04-26 13:49:50 UTC
Quote:

THE POINT of HAVING PLEX to me IS to trade it not use it... just me... nuff said so thanks for all the comments about redeeming it... to me a half bil isk is much more attractive then more game time...


Redeem it in the station you are going to sell it on market. Don't move it around in fragile ships.
Never use the trade system, you will get scammed unless you know what you are doing.
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-04-26 13:51:28 UTC
Whut

Heh.
Faith Patrouette
Careless Carebears Inc.
#26 - 2012-04-26 13:54:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Faith Patrouette
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:


I still feel that if the plex is given as a reward from inviting someone to the game you should get a small window to redeem it ONLY if its rendered NON redeemable through stupidity.

this only helps ccp and the player base.

THE POINT of HAVING PLEX to me IS to trade it not use it... just me... nuff said so thanks for all the comments about redeeming it... to me a half bil isk is much more attractive then more game time...


So you feel that if you get a reward and then get it blown up, because of stupidity, you should get another one of those rewards, just because you were stupid?
NO...

This only helps ccp and the player base? How so?
CCP gave you a free plex, you got it blown up, giving you another one wont help CCP, or the playerbase in general, just you...

The point of using a plex to trade is invalid, you could have still done that, had you redeemed it in a trade hub,
you would have had no problem selling it as you would not have had to travel with it.
The fact that you did not do a simple search for how this works before you redeemed it,
is not CCP's problem, it is a learning experience for you.

So learn from it, instead of asking CCP to put mechanisms in place to protect you from your own stupidity.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#27 - 2012-04-26 13:55:29 UTC
There are no mulligans in Eve.

You learned a lesson the hard way. I bet you'll remember not to ever do that again since the punishment was harsh, no?

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Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-04-26 14:02:10 UTC
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:
ok clarification

this is not a quote from a real GM

I was moving the plex to sell for a better rate

Oh and this is short compared to the multitude of other emails in the 1 petition out of two that I have


I did this the first time I sold a plex, luckily I didn't get ganked. Afterwards, I learned to move to the location first before I redeemed the Plex. Or just redeem the Plex on my alt that lives in Jita.

This will be a good learning experience for you and your friend. At least you didn't lose 30 plex's like we have seen.
Gorongo Frostfyr
#29 - 2012-04-26 14:03:11 UTC
if you want to trade it, get a proper ship. gettin banged in a noobship with a plex in cargo is you damn own fault
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-04-26 14:05:55 UTC
You loitered pal.

You tried to loose this plex on purpose, To bring this issue forward. And no, the GM,s and devs will not save your nor change this mechanic.

That thrasher had to scan you to know what was in your cargo hold. All though he could why would he attack a random noob ship for no reason. Either you were very foolish or he was very lucky.

Traveling gate to gate at zero in a noob ship means he wouldn't have had time to lock, scan and scram and gank you. You would have warped to soon for him to catch you.

Theres a myriad of things you could have done to protect yourself when moving this item. I have managed to move valuables many times through out empire, and low sec in a variety of non cloaked ships and had no problems.

Noob ships have such small sigs and are so agile, you must have put yourself in a situation to invite this.

You asked for it.

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Daniel L'Siata
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#31 - 2012-04-26 14:08:38 UTC
That people still undock with PLEX amazes me.

Please learn to play before you waste everyone's time.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2012-04-26 14:18:50 UTC
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:

THE POINT of HAVING PLEX to me IS to trade it not use it... just me... nuff said so thanks for all the comments about redeeming it... to me a half bil isk is much more attractive then more game time...

greetings, dimwit

it is possible to reverse redeem a plex so that it gets added as an item your account owns while taking it out of the game (not adding to your game time), then redeem it in another station (bringing it there risk-free)

then you sell it

had you not been such a colossal dimwit you wouldn't have died, you would have essentially warped the plex to jita

i hope this has been educational for you

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#33 - 2012-04-26 14:21:28 UTC
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:
ok clarification

this is not a quote from a real GM

I was moving the plex to sell for a better rate

Oh and this is short compared to the multitude of other emails in the 1 petition out of two that I have


You should buy some PLEX now and rather move them into or out of Jita this weekend, it will be safest then.

(This is not a quote from anyone in particular)

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Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#34 - 2012-04-26 14:23:59 UTC
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:
ok clarification

this is not a quote from a real GM


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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
#35 - 2012-04-26 14:31:34 UTC
You get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-04-26 14:35:06 UTC
So you lost a PLEX because you had it in your cargo and were destroyed in PvP. As per the game rules the PLEX was destroyed at random and you blame CCP for your screwup? Typical. Next time either use the PLEX or don't get killed. Don't blame someone else for your stupid mistake.

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#37 - 2012-04-26 14:37:27 UTC
Maybe don't carry a PLEX round in a noob ship?

Damn nature, you scary!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#38 - 2012-04-26 14:44:38 UTC
Arlis Kaiesta wrote:
ok clarification

this is not a quote from a real GM

I was moving the plex to sell for a better rate
Oh and this is short compared to the multitude of other emails in the 1 petition out of two that I have



So you took a risk to increase your reward, and now you're complaining about losing?

Can you - quickly - give us a reason we should sympathise with your greed and unwillingness to accept the consequence of your own actions, or should we just get right on with pointing and laughing at you?

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-04-26 14:47:30 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Since a PLEX can be redeemed from anywhere in EVE, why in the hell would you undock with it in your hold?

To transport it to another location, possibly to sell for a higher price.



Except that you don't need to. Right click, last option -> return to redeem items. Then fly whatever ship you want to the destination you want your plex to be in and then redeem it there.

Flying anywhere with a plex is a guarantee to be blown up ... unless you're in an overtanked orca with like 300k ehp and with the plex in your corp cargo bay.
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Kings Gambit Black
#40 - 2012-04-26 14:53:18 UTC
Now you know what steps not to take in the future.


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