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Will YOU let the GSF Silence YOU ??

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Victor Twenty
The Scorpion Brothers
#181 - 2012-04-25 16:26:26 UTC
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What the Idiot is doing is forcing CCP's hand to decide where this game is going to be in 2 years. Unfortunately, this tactic is so anti-thetical to ANY business model, that CCP WILL step in and adjust things at somepoint if this is indeed carried out.

And that is not 'paranoid carebear thinking'. THAT is business reality. The Idiot forgets that EVE is not a toy to CCP.


These are the simple facts, CCP will continue to see their subscription shrink and they will have to respond. The question is will players be willing to return after all this crap.

It all went wrong when CCP allowed grieving, as we all saw at fanfeast this year, there is no end to what someone is willing to do if grieving goes unchecked. With the upcoming changes to war mechanics maybe its time for CCP to stop grieving in its tracks.


Vic20
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#182 - 2012-04-25 16:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Tippia wrote:
Xython wrote:
Kairos Antilles wrote:
Industrialists of all flavors have to be elated at the announcement of the Death Squad. Between the ganks and CONCORD target practice: demand spike incoming!
Combine this with the mineral deflation being fixed and it's a good time to be an industrialist.
…not to mention that, with a bit of luck, some of the competition will end up on that list, distracting them from constantly stealing your deals. Blink

It would actually be amusing if they took contracts do do stuff like that.

Granted, it's more like getting smartbombs rather than lazers, so if you want them to clear a belt of opposing miners, you better stay docked until they're gone. But still ~ I think they will show up with their CFC corp badge so if you see a group, convo them and maybe if they hear of some hulks, who knows what might happen ~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Fagundass
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#183 - 2012-04-25 16:30:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Fagundass
sound


Мне не нужны
Нежные поцелуи
Не подходи
Плачь, детка, я не ревную

Слёзы твои для меня
Лучшая награда
Плачь, детка, плачь от любви
Большего не надо

Mne ne nujni
Nejnie pocelui
Ne podhodi
Plach, detka, ya ne revnuyu

Slyozi tvoi dlya menya
Luchshaya nagrada
Pluch, detka, pluch ot lubvi
Bol'shego ne nado
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2012-04-25 16:30:21 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Hmm openly admitting to breaking the EULA. What a bunch of shitbags CCP are for not enforcing their own rules.


Ok, I'll bite. Where in the EULA?
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#185 - 2012-04-25 16:31:23 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
They've been trying. After the Tenal "didn't want that region anyway" and Venal "didn't want that tech anyway" the last round of CFC vs BoB has been relatively painless. Even the logistics people got off lightly in Tenal, since Razor was retaking their home (Venal was a little different...)

But don't worry, Riverini's group has decided to attack ! So we're in for a real spectacle from his "game press" website. Stay tuned for tales of our fail cascade.


Trying :D

We opened to Tenal back then, and I went ratting. There was one guy in system, I tried to scare him away with combat probes, and he lolled in local something like "Dude take the system next door, this whole place is empty as the owners are too busy running from the Goons" Big smile Well, he was right and it was absolutely empty everywhere.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#186 - 2012-04-25 16:32:23 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Hmm openly admitting to breaking the EULA.
Not really, no.

Quote:
What a bunch of shitbags CCP are for not enforcing their own rules.
To be fair, doing so would leave goons with very few to shoot at this point, after the near-constant harassment people have been mounting against the alliance and its leadership…

Victor Twenty wrote:
These are the simple facts, CCP will continue to see their subscription shrink and they will have to respond.
“Continue”? It would have to start before it can “continue”, and so far, it's exactly these kinds of grand events that have made EVE grow year after year. They did respond: their chief marketing officer used Goons as an example of what makes EVE sell and of what keeps it in the limelight, not just in the gaming media, but in mainstream media as well.

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It all went wrong when CCP allowed grieving
Why wouldn't people be allowed to grieve? You can't really control it when your loved ones die, and how you react to that loss.

On a completely unrelated note, did you know that griefing isn't allowed in EVE?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-04-25 16:33:37 UTC
Victor Twenty wrote:
Quote:


What the Idiot is doing is forcing CCP's hand to decide where this game is going to be in 2 years. Unfortunately, this tactic is so anti-thetical to ANY business model, that CCP WILL step in and adjust things at somepoint if this is indeed carried out.

And that is not 'paranoid carebear thinking'. THAT is business reality. The Idiot forgets that EVE is not a toy to CCP.


These are the simple facts, CCP will continue to see their subscription shrink and they will have to respond. The question is will players be willing to return after all this crap.


EVE is the only Sandbox MMO out there. The only other one on the horizon is World of Darkness, which -- gasp -- is also owned by CCP.

So not only does CCP support the Sandbox, a Sandbox where a PVP alliance can swoop in and murder people at random (EVE) or a Sandbox where a PVP alliance can perma-kill players they don't like (WoD), they are quite literally betting their future on it.

In short: Maybe EVE isn't for you.
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#188 - 2012-04-25 16:33:58 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Oh, thousands of griefed-out-of-the-game-for-opening-thier-mouths players unsubscribing will be quite loud in CCP's ears.
And just what are YOU doing about it ????? hmmmm ???

I call it survival of the fittest.
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#189 - 2012-04-25 16:34:02 UTC
i bet you guys don't like japan as much as i do
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#190 - 2012-04-25 16:34:31 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
lol silence who? Carebears in highsec?

Roll


apparently carebears in highsec make Goons MAD bro

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Kairos Antilles
Doomheim
#191 - 2012-04-25 16:35:11 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
It all went wrong when CCP allowed grieving


Why wouldn't people be allowed to grieve? You can't really control it when your loved ones die, and how you react to that loss.


/applause
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#192 - 2012-04-25 16:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Roime wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
They've been trying. After the Tenal "didn't want that region anyway" and Venal "didn't want that tech anyway" the last round of CFC vs BoB has been relatively painless. Even the logistics people got off lightly in Tenal, since Razor was retaking their home (Venal was a little different...)

But don't worry, Riverini's group has decided to attack ! So we're in for a real spectacle from his "game press" website. Stay tuned for tales of our fail cascade.

Trying :D

We opened to Tenal back then, and I went ratting. There was one guy in system, I tried to scare him away with combat probes, and he lolled in local something like "Dude take the system next door, this whole place is empty as the owners are too busy running from the Goons" Big smile Well, he was right and it was absolutely empty everywhere.

Yes, they didn't want that region. Uh, people were running complexes in the middle of the "war", it was pretty silly.

Given that it took only a week to shoot all the structures, it was just good that the razor people were on top of all the pos dropping and stuff, since logistics had to deal with all the tech in venal immediately aferwards.

Still, we got something good out of the wars: hilarious CEO updates, NC. whines about us being titan blobbers (we blob everything anyway).

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2012-04-25 16:36:23 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Oh, thousands of griefed-out-of-the-game-for-opening-thier-mouths players unsubscribing will be quite loud in CCP's ears.
And just what are YOU doing about it ????? hmmmm ???

I call it survival of the fittest.


I prefer the term "Quality Control."
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#194 - 2012-04-25 16:36:32 UTC
So this guy, mittani, who has been utterly ego destroyed and humiliated in front of his entire alliance is trying desperately to hold on to his power?

Yawn.

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

Mr Epeen Cool
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#195 - 2012-04-25 16:37:16 UTC
Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:
Metal Icarus wrote:
lol silence who? Carebears in highsec?

Roll


apparently carebears in highsec make Goons MAD bro


Actually it's more like carebears ranting in local make Goons HARD bro

We like it when you struggle.Blink
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#196 - 2012-04-25 16:37:22 UTC
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
i bet you guys don't like japan as much as i do



Is that near Long Island?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#197 - 2012-04-25 16:38:08 UTC
Victor Twenty wrote:
Quote:


What the Idiot is doing is forcing CCP's hand to decide where this game is going to be in 2 years. Unfortunately, this tactic is so anti-thetical to ANY business model, that CCP WILL step in and adjust things at somepoint if this is indeed carried out.

And that is not 'paranoid carebear thinking'. THAT is business reality. The Idiot forgets that EVE is not a toy to CCP.


These are the simple facts, CCP will continue to see their subscription shrink and they will have to respond. The question is will players be willing to return after all this crap.


These are "the simple facts": their subscriptions aren't shrinking. Sorry to humiliate you by pointing out that you're supporting your point with a flat out lie, but CCP recently confirmed that EVE's subs are higher than they've ever been.

The actual simple facts are that EVE's subscriptions only shrank whilst CCP neglected the "grieving" part of the game. Every other period of the game saw an increase. And that increase was fastest whilst the rules were loosest.

A first order business analysis would conclude that non consensual PvP should be buffed and encouraged, not reduced.

I now return you to your wonderful world of simply making things up to support your prejudices. Carry on!

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#198 - 2012-04-25 16:38:20 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
So this guy, mittani, who has been utterly ego destroyed and humiliated in front of his entire alliance is trying desperately to hold on to his power?

Yawn.

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

Mr Epeen Cool

Wait wait what? When was Mittani losing power? Oh that's right, never.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#199 - 2012-04-25 16:39:16 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
So this guy, mittani, who has been utterly ego destroyed and humiliated in front of his entire alliance is trying desperately to hold on to his power?

Yawn.

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

Mr Epeen Cool


Every time I hit view post in the vain hope that maybe, MAYBE you aren't saying something so completely disconnected from reality and downright stupid that it might be worth reading, I'm left utterly disappointed.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#200 - 2012-04-25 16:39:21 UTC
Roime wrote:
Imagine if you would be playing a unique, ultra-modern sci-fi themed MMO. In this game, you would be an immortal being, piloting huge-ass spaceships and commanding the wealth of the nations. The single-shard universe of this game would be dynamic, shaped by player actions, with deep and complex gameplay mechanics giving birth to a multitude of behavioral patterns, which in turn form living subcultures totally unique to the virtual universe of this game.

Sounds cool, right?

Now imagine this game has no Evil. No Horde. It's so mature and realistic, that "evil" and "good" are just shades of neutral. Terrible actions can be justified. It's farmable NPCs are so faceless and stupid, that you couldn't really hate or fear them. People engage in minor conflicts, some over territory, most just for thirst of blood.

Then a creative player enters the field. He dreams big, and has worked tediously to achieve a position where he has the resources to make these dreams real in the game universe. What is his dream?




... his dream is lolz
and stroking his ego

Good job helping him btw

almost forgot; breaking the game you like to play so that when/if the company running the game every punishes him for his actions and the actions of his friends to SAVE the game it can only be called a Phyrric victory. To save the game they have to break the game. Its a win/win for him and a lose/lose for us.

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game