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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?

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Akiyo XI
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#121 - 2012-04-24 16:59:49 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.



at least someones doing something about this....

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=88910&p=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JUX8z_ucPU

"the wise speak only of what they know"

Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-04-24 17:00:58 UTC
trademeyourmoneys wrote:
good luck forming a alliance that can attack a 75,000 player coalition thats being drip fed tech.

Only way i can see to cause havoc to goons if for everyone to leave 0.0 until goons get bored.


We're already bored of 0.0. That's why we're packing our bags and heading for Jita this weekend.

Heh.

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#123 - 2012-04-24 17:01:09 UTC
Nerf the IBIS!!
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-04-24 17:01:38 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Your options:
1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.


Yours had too many words.

Heh.

Welsige
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-04-24 17:03:00 UTC
JC Anderson wrote:
Nerf the IBIS!!


I support this product or service.

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Free The Mittani[/b]

Tark Grethor
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#126 - 2012-04-24 17:03:00 UTC
Goons, you've been very naughty, now stop it! There, I fixed it for you OP. Now let CCP sleep they're very tired after patching and stuff.
ian papabear
No Regard.
#127 - 2012-04-24 17:03:48 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...



this is my opinion

goons have the numbers: if you have the numbers then you make up a large percentage of the eve player base

at any given time he mittani could say to his alliance and all alliances that are blue to goon: "hey guys ccp wants to screw with us, we will screw with them.. kay guys no one log on for a month"

bam tens of thousands of players not logged on.. what happens? ccp loses sponsors.. what happens when you lose sponsors? you lose money. etc etc etc

they are simply in a position of power because they have the numbers.

.

Danel Tosh
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2012-04-24 17:03:49 UTC
Well You Know what they say, The bigger they are the harder they fall.
the Goons canot hope to maintain thier size forever, eventualy they will fall its only a matter of time.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#129 - 2012-04-24 17:04:03 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Your options:
1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.


Yours had too many words.


Smile

I forgot one actually.

Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. Big smile

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JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#130 - 2012-04-24 17:04:17 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:
Atheoss wrote:
I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.

I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus.


Goons finally took them down. Lol


From the inside.

Then they came back as IT Alliance...Stuff happened again and they died.

Now they are back as IT Alliance... Again...Stuff hasn't happened yet.
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#131 - 2012-04-24 17:05:13 UTC
Also, ****.

**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)

Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#132 - 2012-04-24 17:05:20 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Your options:
1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.


Yours had too many words.


Smile

I forgot one actually.

Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. Big smile


We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.

Heh.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#133 - 2012-04-24 17:05:34 UTC
Atheoss wrote:
I just resubbed after long hiatus and this is one of the first posts I see.

I found it hilarious, I remember the same exact posts... almost verbatem, about BoB. Now I don't see Bob anymore... I assume they lost sometime during my hiatus.

BoB has died about 3 times and the fourth is just about to occur.

Perhaps you can watch 5.0 rise up and fall - someone noted they seem to die off faster now.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#134 - 2012-04-24 17:06:05 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:


We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.



She has a point.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#135 - 2012-04-24 17:06:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Your options:
1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.

Yours had too many words.

Smile

I forgot one actually.

Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. Big smile


We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.


The person with the "button" access can do a lot worse than just disband us ...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#136 - 2012-04-24 17:07:35 UTC
Seriously though... I don't like any of you goons but you know?

EVE wouldn't be EVE without them... And thats simply the way it is.
Garibaldi Sinatra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2012-04-24 17:08:32 UTC
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1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric
1 teaspoon ground cumin
1 teaspoon salt
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1 (5cm) cinnamon stick
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1 pinch saffron
5 pods cardamom
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1 (2.5cm) cinnamon stick
1/2 teaspoon ground ginger
450g (1lb) basmati rice
1 litre chicken stock
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**Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time. **(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless)

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#138 - 2012-04-24 17:08:52 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Your options:
1: Admit defeat and quit EVE.


Yours had too many words.


Smile

I forgot one actually.

Wait patiently for the inevitable screw up and watch them disband themselves accidentally. Big smile


We did that already and it didn't slow us down much.


Actually, it did mess with you for a fair amount of time... although to be honest there were other events in play as well at the time.

I am merely professing my faith in your ability to do it again. Big smile

Not really meant in a Goon bashing way actually, just in a "it was highly entertaining" way.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#139 - 2012-04-24 17:10:31 UTC
Xander Riggs wrote:


So, if I were to bring my gun club to Eve or a book club rose to power they'd have to be artificially limited on how successful they could be because they already know each other outside the game? Special cases have another word they tend to go by: Precendents. You're just making excuses for interrupting the natural flow of gameplay by saying 'He started it!'


No. Nowhere did I say they should be limited. I am making the point the the case of the goons is different than the case of BoB or another large alliance that you said has come and gone. You said goons would follow the same, so I was countering your argument. I also never said "he started it." You really should think critically before responding.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#140 - 2012-04-24 17:10:40 UTC
Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:
One might also ask why are we allowing the British Empire to control the entire world; weilding the puppet America state as our 40 pound Rotweiller?






Oh my god I cannot believe you. How could you possibly let a rottweiler get so thin. I mean seriously, that is like a third of its intended weight. You are so going to hear from PETA.

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