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CCP - Why are we allowing one alliance to control eve?
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Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#261 - 2012-04-25 16:10:44 UTC
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.
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Warpshade
Warped Industries
#262 - 2012-04-25 16:11:52 UTC
CCP clearly needs to impliment the Winning police!!!(Concord+), where if your Alliance goes over a certian win metric, the Alliance is concorded to a more moddest state...Roll
Tinnin Sylph
Perkone
Caldari State
#263 - 2012-04-25 16:13:45 UTC
Goonswarm is lead by Hilmar Veigar Pétursson in a Mittens skin-suit.

Heh.
Francisco Bizzaro
#264 - 2012-04-25 16:14:51 UTC
Qvar Dar'Zanar wrote:
TRUE ZER0 wrote:


Haven't seen that shirt before. Where did you get?


Look for sterling dress shirt (white) on contracts. It was about 10M when I bougth it, a month or so ago.
Japanesse players got it as a gift together with the quafe IV ultramarine.

Why would anyone do that?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#265 - 2012-04-25 16:29:49 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.


Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#266 - 2012-04-25 16:31:21 UTC
Tinnin Sylph wrote:
I understand Prencleeve already has an anti-goon scheme in the works. He's a dysfunctional 13 year old and even he probably has more chance of bringing us down than most of the mouth-breathers in this thread who might be inclined to try.

I don't know, he has only a few days left to take down TEST.

I think they're still happily doing - whatever - down in Fountain.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
TRUE ZER0
SILENT INC
#267 - 2012-04-25 16:36:01 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.


Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20?


Everyone knows mittins is navigators alt.
Max Khaos
Republic Military School
#268 - 2012-04-25 16:38:50 UTC
Quote:
Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20
?

Naughty naming names !!!!

You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members .. 
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Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#269 - 2012-04-25 16:43:05 UTC
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
why dont you just declare war on the goons?

In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.

So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!)

Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else...

vOv

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Barakkus
#270 - 2012-04-25 16:43:45 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.


You'd be surprised, some of the corps out there are devs and are horrible at this game lol.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#271 - 2012-04-25 16:44:20 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


It's a pretty awesome model for studying capitalism.

We took over half of space just to cartel one type of good.

Suck it, reality.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#272 - 2012-04-25 16:45:04 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.



Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#273 - 2012-04-25 16:47:57 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
WisdomLikeSilence wrote:
why dont you just declare war on the goons?

In fact if everyone did that, at the same time, much fun would be had - which is what games are supposed to be about.

So come thursday evening, dry your eyes and dec the goonies. That is, if you have the 300 million iskies it costs (ripoff!)

Best idea so far - goons would love it, and so would everyone else...

vOv



To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.

(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?)
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#274 - 2012-04-25 16:48:53 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.



Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.


I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots).
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#275 - 2012-04-25 16:50:00 UTC
Max Khaos wrote:
Quote:
Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20
?

Naughty naming names !!!!

You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members ..


Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#276 - 2012-04-25 16:50:47 UTC
Xython wrote:
Krios Ahzek wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
The question should be more ............. why have so many people with so much "insider information" **cough** been allowed to form corporations / alliances that have dominated Eve.

I still find it funny that 99% of these corps / alliances have had Eve developers, programmers etc in their
decision making team.

Yes I am certain that we are winning because of insider information and not because of the 1000 man fleets.

I think we're winning because we just like this game more than the rest of these kids. Hell, most of them don't even like it enough to play it themselves (I'm looking at you, Ice miner bots).

If you see ice miner bots then after you gank them, make sure to report it to CCP. Botting is a serious problem in those ice fields.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#277 - 2012-04-25 16:50:54 UTC
evereplicant wrote:
So CCP please can you explain why the whole game is pretty much control by one alliance - Goonswarm?
Anything Mittani gets upset about he sends his bees out to pretty much lay havoc on anything and everything which then effects everyone in eve in every way.

Examples

Jita
Ice Mining
Tech prices.

As the game become so saturated that one alliance has the ability to control eve. I mean well done Mittani you now litterally control eve. But CCP really is this the vision of Eve? Because Ill say it again, eve is no longer sandbox when your sandbox is determined by someone elses sandbox.
This isnt a pop at Goons or Mittani as such they have achieved the end game but there is something seriously wrong when an online game gets to this point and one person/alliance can have such a dramatic effect on everyone in eve...


this has all happened before
and it shall happen again

Before Goons it was BoB and wit BoB we had actual devs in there actually being proven as cheating in the game. Goons arent even THAT bad theyre really just apparently either pushing the game in the direction CCP wants it to go or theyve painted themselves into a corner and are unable to do anything about it.

Either way really its CCP's fault.


Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#278 - 2012-04-25 16:51:00 UTC
Xython wrote:
To be honest, wardeccing us right now would be kinda expensive cause we just wardecced the largest Freighter corps and alliances in Highsec.

(What, did you kids think Concord would save you?)

I live in WH's full time - don't feel threatened, haven't depended on Concord in 3 years.... Just thought it would be funny if *everyone* in new eden declared war on GSF - won't happen, and I doubt anyone could co-ordinate well enough to interfere...

but it would be funny!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#279 - 2012-04-25 16:52:02 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
Quote:
Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20
?

Naughty naming names !!!!

You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members ..

Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules.

No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#280 - 2012-04-25 16:55:06 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Max Khaos wrote:
Quote:
Where are these developers? Can you name us some names besides T20
?

Naughty naming names !!!!

You really need to look at the big alliance and the top members ..

Maybe if you gave some actual accusation instead of insinuations us players could do something about it. Or maybe we could get some Sreegs wrath. Part of his job is to hunt down Developers who are breaking the rules.

No, being vague and offering no evidence is enough to get the EVE-O forums going.


Because we all know how effective eve-o can be when they literally have nothing to go on.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]