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Failure To Assimilate The Matari: A Post Mortem

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Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#1 - 2012-04-24 03:06:44 UTC
So I've been sucking down vodka banana smoothies on the terrace of Atalantikiyo's here on Hilaban... what number is this, sweetie? Planet? The planet's number? You know, it's under the gate... to... you know... somewhere else.

Well anyway, I've been sucking down vodka banana smoothies in this gloriously overwhelming afternoon sun, three of my favorite boys curled up on the tiles around my feet - I just love running my toes up and down the bumps on their inhumanely long slender abdomens...

Why hello, Duchess! What a stupendous concoction of haberdasher mastercraftery rests upon thy regal noggin!

Bumps, smoothies... yes, while sucking down vodka and reading the wire, that discussion on "Tests of Faith" caught my attention (given that I so adore both). Now, whether or not this or that blood addled madman on this or that throne represents a "test of faith," a "sign," or (as is more likely the case) "business as usual" - the Empire's failure to assimilate these *adorable* creatures (now sweetie, you know he bites when you pinch those ) certainly qualifies as dropping more than a few ordained balls.

Behave!

The Ni-Kunni, the Udorians, the Khannid, the Parthinians, the Mohikans, the Kilts and the Kumquats, you name it, going back centuries into longer stretches of time, time and again, efficient Amarrian social integration flawlessly expanded the size and diversity of our Empire, repeatedly. Then, not that terribly long ago - at the height of its relative technological superiority - said Empire could not manage to assimilate three societies which had collectively gotten about as far as attaching an internal combustion engine to a buggy and calling it a powered wagon.

Although Jovian meddling certainly tossed the mother of all monkeys at that wench... wrench at these monkeys...

Gar-sewn! Another smoothie!

Right, although the Jove (may they rot in their vacuous graves) played foil to God's project plan, it wasn't really *all* them, now, was it, sweeties? Somewhere around my seventh smoothie... and I've completely lost track how many tummy bumps - kitchy kitchy kitchy koo koo!

Somewhere around then, it hit me.

It is the humble man who knows his place before God, and so it is humble Humility who rules the Virtues.

Trying to assimilate three substantially different beast tribes all at once - without vanquishing their respective primal aspects in turn - was not humble and led to catastrophic failure. Really, I should have seen this from the holos hidden away by Great Auntie Kali up in the monastery attic. Only two members of my extended clan have ventured into space, at least for any extended period of time, and we couldn't have been more different, Great Auntie Kali and me. She was a vicious, conniving, cruel dominatrix with a taste for bare bottoms and... so we couldn't have been more alike, Great Auntie and me.

Though she did not participate in the original seizure of Pitter-Pa'tor, after swimming in one of the lakes that you're not really supposed to swim in, she informed the family that the Lady of that Lake had demanded Auntie take to the stars. So off she went to Patagonia. She made nice with a Vharsoothian clan that offered to show her where Sebiestor were hiding in muddy holes - nothing changes, does it, sweeties? Who *is* a good boy!?

Well, there you have it. Had the Empire contented itself to assimilate one feral tribe at a time, matters would have proceeded as smoothly as a Versoopial teen's curving back. I therefore submit that rather than trying to re-assimilate the whole bloody lot of them, we just pick *one* of the Matari tribes to tango with at a time.

Gar-sewn! A tango!

The example of success would then surely facilitate swirling with the other two. But which to pick first?

Mummy has her favorite, doesn't she, sweetie boo-boo-moogie-woogie-woogies!
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#2 - 2012-04-24 04:50:28 UTC
Hmpf...

Disgusting little creature.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#3 - 2012-04-24 07:27:20 UTC
I attempted to run this speech through my perscomp's gibberish translator program, but it made the system have a fatal brain aneurysm.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#4 - 2012-04-24 07:50:16 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
I attempted to run this speech through my perscomp's gibberish translator program, but it made the system have a fatal brain aneurysm.


Applying a vodka banana smoothie FFT should get roughly: "Let's just take the Sebiestor off everyone's hands and call it even." Yes? Stu-pendous.

Oh! An Intaki. How delightful!
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2012-04-24 10:24:35 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:

Right, although the Jove (may they rot in their vacuous graves) played foil to God's project plan, it wasn't really *all* them, now, was it, sweeties? Somewhere around my seventh smoothie... and I've completely lost track how many tummy bumps - kitchy kitchy kitchy koo koo!


When one knows that the Amarr Empire actually attacked the Jove that were initially not involved in anything at all regarding the Minmatar rebellion - or uprising, depending on the observer - it starts to get hard to argue that the Jove are to blame for said rebellion/uprising.

Now then, some Amarrian think-tanks also like to believe that God project plans - if God is to be unflawed - are unlikely to be played foil with by mere mortals, which often leads them to believe that Vak'Atioth was not part of God project plans, some even going as far as to state that they actually went against God project plans.
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#6 - 2012-04-24 12:27:00 UTC
While i applaud consuming of vodka even if it is mixed with bananas and milk. Amarr failure of intergration in a way came from taking on too much at once and applying more flogging instead of incentives. If i recall my history correctly amarr also failed at understanding Minmatar societies tribal nature and their social rituals. While im personally against enslavement even when there are better alternatives ie. utilization of trade has been effective way to spread ideas and beliefs in past. that provided that greed doesnt out pace faith.

I still dont understand why Amarr insist on gods plan while they on certain degree are unable to fulfill it with out resorting to less than pious deeds. shows certain lack of problem solving and intuition when it comes to spreading faith of Amarr.

these are just my thoughts on the matter but if someone feels the need of correcting my point of view please do.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#7 - 2012-04-24 13:34:40 UTC
Except now we're united against the threat of the Reclaiming. So you can't go after just one tribe.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-04-24 14:04:33 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:
Except now we're united against the threat of the Reclaiming. So you can't go after just one tribe.


And as much as it pains me to say it, there's the ties between the Federation and the Republic now...

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#9 - 2012-04-24 19:08:37 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
"Let's just take the Sebiestor off everyone's hands and call it even.


We bite. Viciously.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#10 - 2012-04-24 19:41:42 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
"Let's just take the Sebiestor off everyone's hands and call it even.


We bite. Viciously.


I believe I mentioned that!

Moreover, it's rather the point. Let's face it, the Brutor and Vherokior trust the Sebiestor about as much as they trust a Serpentis toxicologist to cure the common cold without harvesting the patient's organs.

Indeed, the entire cluster would be better off if the Sebiestor went the Udorian route. Such a transaction would improve the Republic's balance of trade while reducing the surplus pool of labor currently depressing her wages. We call that "win-win!" But how to do it? I'm thinking a Cartel front company (posing as a Gallente professional services management firm) buys up the Sebiestor and relocates... or wait, even better, a matriculation center for "freed" slaves...

Well now, isn't that a pleasant surprise?

Gar-sewn! Another smoothie! Who *is* a good boy!? Oh yes you are!
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#11 - 2012-04-24 19:43:45 UTC
It appears that alcohol and carnal desires are clouding Pilot Noh's judgement to cause her to suggest such an insane idea otherwise, she'd recall from history, that while Matari may disagree among ourselves we've always fought as one against outside threats.

Also confirming that, unlike her boy toys, we do bite rather viciously...

With radioactive ordnance and thermonuclear missiles.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Jev North
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-04-24 19:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jev North
Always?

Added - oh, fair enough, one-word posts are a bit silly. What I mean is, always does not automatically mean forever. And sometimes, well.. does the word Nefantar mean anything to you?

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#13 - 2012-04-24 22:32:52 UTC
Halete wrote:
Rek Jaiga wrote:
Except now we're united against the threat of the Reclaiming. So you can't go after just one tribe.


And as much as it pains me to say it, there's the ties between the Federation and the Republic now...


There is nothing at all worse about the Federation than the Republic, I daresay that with better fashions in both ships and fabric I prefer the Federation. In the past few months I have even done a bit of fixing their view of me and the Nation didn't seem to mind that, and i have to think that the tolerance that the Federation espouses is real, whereas most other empires are simply lying....

I suppose the question is why all the hate, hasn't the Federation done enough for the republic to earn your gratitude rather than contempt?
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#14 - 2012-04-24 23:01:51 UTC
Jev North wrote:
Always?

Added - oh, fair enough, one-word posts are a bit silly. What I mean is, always does not automatically mean forever. And sometimes, well.. does the word Nefantar mean anything to you?


Oh yes, the Nefentar. We can thank them for the preservation of the Starkmanir.
Rek Jaiga
Teraa Matar
#15 - 2012-04-24 23:08:45 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:



Moreover, it's rather the point. Let's face it, the Brutor and Vherokior trust the Sebiestor about as much as they trust a Serpentis toxicologist to cure the common cold without harvesting the patient's organs.




And where do you gather this tidbit from? Within the Liberation Force people from all the tribes fight side-by-side. Just sayin. Our Vherokior partners in HUANG seem to trust us well.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#16 - 2012-04-24 23:46:39 UTC
Rek Jaiga wrote:

And where do you gather this tidbit from? Within the Liberation Force people from all the tribes fight side-by-side. Just sayin. Our Vherokior partners in HUANG seem to trust us well.


Of *course* they do.

Why don't we look at you for a bit, shall we? In recent memory, you have gone from shaking your pompoms fervently for Zombie Nation (sing with me now: "Unity!"), to being emotionally devastated by alliance politics (sing with me now: "Unity!"), to dying your pompoms crimson, yes? After a few stages that I may have missed, along comes the white knight routine. How long will *that* last?

I very much doubt any of those fighting "side by side" with you at present would be in the least bit surprised that, should a Sleeper awaken for longer than fifteen minutes, you would be off to shake pompoms for the Virtual Collective.

You are yourself proof of the pudding: "always" is never "forever."

Once the Sebiestor hear that the Brutor and Vherokior are considering selling them back to the Empire, those devious little minds will kick into high gear. Think of the mayhem they might unleash! Why, no wonder that just the other day, Mr. Shakur ordered his security forces to open files on an unprecedented fifty-three million additional Sebiestor tribalists. I have the list right here! If only I also had that Rake in my Rolodex...
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#17 - 2012-04-25 03:16:43 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
[...]

Once the Sebiestor hear that the Brutor and Vherokior are considering selling them back to the Empire, those devious little minds will kick into high gear. Think of the mayhem they might unleash! Why, no wonder that just the other day, Mr. Shakur ordered his security forces to open files on an unprecedented fifty-three million additional Sebiestor tribalists. I have the list right here! If only I also had that Rake in my Rolodex...


Is there a name for your kind of barking-dog crazy, or does "generic IGS nutter" cover it sufficiently?


Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#18 - 2012-04-25 03:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
Gosakumori Noh wrote:
Rek Jaiga wrote:



Of *course* they do.

Why don't we look at you for a bit, shall we? In recent memory, you have gone from shaking your pompoms fervently for Zombie Nation (sing with me now: "Unity!"), to being emotionally devastated by alliance politics (sing with me now: "Unity!"), to dying your pompoms crimson, yes? After a few stages that I may have missed, along comes the white knight routine. How long will *that* last?

I very much doubt any of those fighting "side by side" with you at present would be in the least bit surprised that, should a Sleeper awaken for longer than fifteen minutes, you would be off to shake pompoms for the Virtual Collective.

You are yourself proof of the pudding: "always" is never "forever."

Once the Sebiestor hear that the Brutor and Vherokior are considering selling them back to the Empire, those devious little minds will kick into high gear. Think of the mayhem they might unleash! Why, no wonder that just the other day, Mr. Shakur ordered his security forces to open files on an unprecedented fifty-three million additional Sebiestor tribalists. I have the list right here! If only I also had that Rake in my Rolodex...


Confirming that I frequently think of selling my Sebiestor cousins into slavery.

I would also like to take this opportunity to confirm that on Matar it rains Starcakes, Jamy Sarum and Jacus Roden have begun a passionate love affair and I am but a naive schoolgirl at the tender age of twelve.

Now, the serious point, I would like to point out that the idea of a constituent tribe of the Republic selling another tribe or anyone for that matter into slavery, ventures beyond the wet-dreams of less... realistic slaveholders and into a realm beyond even the wildest socio-politcal theory.

Indeed to assume such is to ignore far greater internal tensions in the Republic and among the greater Matari people. The Republic still struggles with re-assimilating the Nefantar and Starkmanir, taking in refugees from the war-torn low-sec regions, and is still in something of a political crisis with the abolition of the Parliament and the scarcity of the Tribal Elders. All such problems are well known issues, and the one described in the OP is not only unheard of but inconcievable on all realistic counts.

On a final polite and utmostly respectful note, I would advise decreasing the intake of cocktails and moving onto less... racey beverages.

**Vherokior **

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#19 - 2012-04-25 06:33:44 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:


Now, the serious point, I would like to point out that the idea of a constituent tribe of the Republic selling another tribe or anyone for that matter into slavery, ventures beyond the wet-dreams of less... realistic slaveholders and into a realm beyond even the wildest socio-politcal theory.



Oh, *really*?

If in fact that is your grasp of slavery's history, then I am not the one living in la-la land and you, sir, need to read a book. Perhaps two. In reality, down through the ages, collaborators have been a primary vector for acquiring slaves among native populations and transporting said to ports where big ships come and pick them up.

So who might collaborate in contemporary Matari society?

Even a cursory examination of available materials quickly reveals an answer:

The Vherokior have been under-represented throughout Matari history. Isardsund Urbrald sought to address this by transferring power to the tribes and away from the central government. He was opposed in that effort by... the Sebiestor.

It is the Sebiestor who have historically dominated Matari society, lording their tinkerer skills over the other tribes. Naturally, the crafty little devils like the idea of a strong central government - one which they have traditionally dominated.

But wait! The Brutor are the rising stars of Republic life, and they see the present age as "their time." Oh, dear. That puts them in direct conflict with... the Sebiestor.

Meanwhile, the Krusual - who share the ingenious traits of the Sebiestor but have instead been demonized for them - harbor the least favorable opinion of their tinkering rivals among the lot.

Now, is there a common thread? Oh, look at that! It's that nobody actually likes the Sebiestor.

Add to this the economic difficulties which confront the entire Republic, and denials that some tribes might seriously consider jettisoning the least popular among them have a brassy, hollow ring.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-04-25 07:33:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Halete
The caustic ***** that tries to pit my own brothers and sisters against me is the one that I reserve a special place for in the furnaces of hatred in my heart.

There's a line where insanity stops being entertaining and we've clearly crossed it here.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

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