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Aid Bringer

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  • June release 118.6 - General feedback in EVE Information Center

    Bad Bobby wrote:
    v3locity wrote:
    Bad Bobby wrote:
    If cost is a consideration, I'd happily fork over 200 PLEX towards the cost of adding the toggle.

    I'm sure we could do a whip round, PLEX for accessibility or whatever. It's not ideal, but if the options are to pay a premium for accessibility features or to be forced out of EVE, I'd accept the former.

    So you want to pay them to not be stupid. Good luck with that one.

    It's not really like that.

    Take this quote as an example of the issues:

    CCP Darwin wrote:
    When people ask for a toggle to turn a feature off, usually they are really saying they'd like the feature removed entirely but think that an option toggle is a more reasonable request. Our focus, though, is usually on trying to make something new like the docking animation a positive for more people.

    That's why I asked for posters who might say "Add a switch!" or "Take it out!" to instead explain what they don't like about it. Maybe it could be different in some way that wouldn't make you feel that way but doesn't take us back to a black screen or a loading bar for these session changes, and it helps if you offer us thoughts that can help us get there.

    Of course, taking it out, or even adding a switch, are always last-resort options, but they're just something we prefer not to do if we think we can find a better spot for the feature that more players will appreciate.

    So if you pick out:

    1. When people ask for a toggle they are usually really asking for something else.
    2. Our focus would be to offer them something else instead of what they are specifically asking for.
    3. People asking for toggles are required to commit to further communication with us to be successful in persuading us.
    4. Adding toggles is always a last resort.

    You see how we end up with the situation we are in?

    If you think offering 200 PLEX in order to bring about positive change is a negative, fine. That's a perfectly reasonable point of view and a perfectly reasonable response to what is obviously extreme behavior on my part.

    I've given more than enough feedback to CCP in over a decade of playing. But I've watched the playable parts of EVE shrink around me in spite of my feedback. Those unaffected don't need to have their game curtailed by my issues. We don't require lots of development time spent on a new flashy thing that equally will not meet our needs. We just need a toggle so that those that have problems can be free of those problems while those that do not can enjoy the eye candy.


    In a way, CCP is right. When we ask for a toggle we really are asking for something else, them to use their time and money better and stop delivering crap 'features' that hurt the player experience. Asking for a toggle is a compromise. Its the players saying "Look, you ****** up, this is crap, please for the love of god take it away... but we understand you put effort into it and are emotionally attached to it so lets have a toggle so you can sit there in iceland and pretend most people aren't turning it off the minute theyre able to."

  • June release 118.6 - General feedback in EVE Information Center

    CCP Turtlepower wrote:
    Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
    why do I see Mining amount and single Bounty rewards on screen .. even with all notifications and log an messages turned off?
    We added a toggle...


    *bangs head on desk repeatedly...

  • June release 118.6 - General feedback in EVE Information Center

    KIller Wabbit wrote:
    Cade Windstalker wrote:
    KIller Wabbit wrote:
    Aid Bringer wrote:
    Drigo Segvian wrote:
    Love the little +/- wallet display as transactions process.

    +1 CCP



    Yeah, its not bad, though I notice they DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM CREATING AN ON/OFF TOGGLE FOR THIS ONE.


    Sort of just blows what the Dev said to justify not adding a toggle for the station animation right out of the water, eh?

    Common, CCP. Be big, learn to admit mistakes and expedite changes.


    Different menu, different team, different circumstance.

    The wallet toggle is off in its own little thing. Darwin commented that his team was trying to reduce the complexity of the graphical menus, which the wallet toggle is not among.


    As if one more menu tab in the ESC menu would be the end of the world. If they actually researched it I'm betting a significant number of EVE customers would be happy with one or more additional ESC menus that would provide toggles for over a dozen or more "features" that the customers actually hate. The issue is the Dev's don't like us pushing back.

    It's okay Devs, be "right". One account expiring in 3 days, the others rippling down in the next two weeks.


    I don't care WHERE they put the animation toggle button, they can put it in the wallet menu for all i care, as long as I can turn it off somewhere.

    But noooo.... asthetics over functionality, What is this, windows 10?

  • June release 118.6 - General feedback in EVE Information Center

    Drigo Segvian wrote:
    Love the little +/- wallet display as transactions process.

    +1 CCP



    Yeah, its not bad, though I notice they DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM CREATING AN ON/OFF TOGGLE FOR THIS ONE.

  • June release 118.6 - General feedback in EVE Information Center

    I love how all the people who DONT get motion sick are saying "It's no big deal!"

    You deal with a damn gag reflex every time you dock or change ships, then get back to me.

    Its like me telling the dude in the wheelchair that the stairway they just installed to get to the bathroom is no big deal.


    Big thumbs up for vectors in space and the extra overview tabs though.

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