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Do we want the new graphics upgrade?

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Sol Tertia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2012-03-25 14:36:32 UTC
Lt Pizi wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
Baneken wrote:
The graphics shown were absolutely gorgeous but how will those scale for all those poor SOB's who don't have a DX 11 card ?

Pay up or GTFO...

If every game publisher used that as a baseline for upgrading we would still be running Direct X 1.0 or EGA monitors...


Nicholas Kurus wrote:
+1
but i have to say that they should have it as (optional) for the people with computers that cant even play D11

Pay up or GTFO...



keep in mind that this takes at least 1year + , by then a card that runs dx11 on a resonable lvl will be quite cheap

Keep in mind that CCP have already said in this thread that the DX9 client isn't going anywhere any time soon so nobody is going to need to buy any graphics card no matter how cheap or otherwise.
Miss President
SOLARIS ASTERIUS
#202 - 2012-03-25 14:36:35 UTC
Sure, why not to new graphics as long as CCP can:

1. Make sure system and video card resource utilization remains similar to current level. Many people would still like to play on med level DX11 card with multiple clients. And if reduction in quality of game settings for multiclients doesn't make game look like crap.
2. Coordinate a deal with NVIDIA and AMD (HD) Series that all eve players get a coupon code or mail in rebate for new card + for power supplies - a likely candidate for an update. Retailers shall not be limited.

I have a 2 year old video card. but even by todays standards it's extremly decent for multiple eve clients and most FPS games. No support for DX 11 though.
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#203 - 2012-03-25 14:44:12 UTC
Sol Tertia wrote:
Lt Pizi wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
Baneken wrote:
The graphics shown were absolutely gorgeous but how will those scale for all those poor SOB's who don't have a DX 11 card ?

Pay up or GTFO...

If every game publisher used that as a baseline for upgrading we would still be running Direct X 1.0 or EGA monitors...


Nicholas Kurus wrote:
+1
but i have to say that they should have it as (optional) for the people with computers that cant even play D11

Pay up or GTFO...



keep in mind that this takes at least 1year + , by then a card that runs dx11 on a resonable lvl will be quite cheap

Keep in mind that CCP have already said in this thread that the DX9 client isn't going anywhere any time soon so nobody is going to need to buy any graphics card no matter how cheap or otherwise.


keep in mind that if you want to see all the stuff you will need a dx11 card , thats what i was refering too

you absolutly correct the dx9 client will not go away anitime soon

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cBOLTSON
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#204 - 2012-03-25 14:46:13 UTC
Hell yes would LOVE graphical updates especially if that brings with it better collision detection and actual shields!!

+1

The good old days of Unreal Tournament, fragging and sniping on Facing Worlds, listening to Foregone Destruction.......
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#205 - 2012-03-25 14:53:34 UTC
VampireZIM
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#206 - 2012-03-25 15:13:06 UTC
I say DO IT! But make it an option to turn off in video settings for those with slower computers.
General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services
#207 - 2012-03-25 15:20:28 UTC  |  Edited by: General Jung
Pro,

gives us tessellation. One of best benifit for NVIDIA cards, which performs better at tesselation.
Reiisha
#208 - 2012-03-25 15:35:39 UTC
Dr Prometheus wrote:
Rather offtopi, but is it possible to put up a techdemo on youtube? Also for AMD Card users (ex Ati), will it work on these cards too as it is a DX11 feature or is it only Nvidia?


Will work on AMD aswell. AMD cards are DX11 compliant since the 5000 HD series.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Lt Pizi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#209 - 2012-03-25 15:40:53 UTC
tesseleration is a directx11 feature not something nvidea made

phsyx on the other hand

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Krotarr
Drop Dead Thief
#210 - 2012-03-25 15:44:55 UTC
give it to me .... NOW ! Cool

+1
Dyner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#211 - 2012-03-25 15:54:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Dyner
cBOLTSON wrote:
Hell yes would LOVE graphical updates especially if that brings with it better collision detection and actual shields!!

+1



This!

The perfect shield affect is all ready in-game; Invul Field. It's got a steady effect that doesn't "pulse" like the shield booster effect.

And honestly, the Star Trek model of shielding is not practical, it takes far less energy to create a field near the surface than is required to extend the field out enough to create an spherical "shell".


...just would need a new effect for the Invul Field P



Also, I really don't care if people don't have DX11 cards, there's no excuse for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600007818&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

If you can't afford ~$50 USD then you shouldn't be playing video games; you have more important things to worry about.
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#212 - 2012-03-25 16:27:01 UTC
The only reason CCP framed this as a crowdsourcing thing is because they knew pretty much everyone woud be in favor of it anyway. No way should it be up to the players how the devs go about future-proofing their tech. Veritas doesn't start a poll on if, how and when the lag monster needs a kick in the ass. The number of players who could bullet point the technical pros and cons this will have is pretty much nil, because we don't know **** about what goes on under the eve engine hood.

CCP have technical directors and engineers to make this call. Besides, we have no idea what those man-months would be spent on otherwise, and no way of knowing if it would turn out good in the end.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2012-03-25 16:39:26 UTC
New graphics worth the time? Yes.

New more accurate Physics? YES PLEASE
Kimiko Tojima
Daughters of Hada
#214 - 2012-03-25 16:58:28 UTC
DO IT !
DO IT !
DO IT !
Lolmer
Merciless Reckoning
#215 - 2012-03-25 18:50:15 UTC
The response to a friend whom used to play EvE Online when I linked him EVE Fanfest Cinematic Trailer 2012 :
Redacted wrote:

09:20 <@Redacted> Lolmer: now if only the game looked like the cinematic trailer
09:20 <@Redacted> I might still be playin
09:20 <@Redacted> because that's particularly epic
Sgt Napalm
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#216 - 2012-03-25 19:11:45 UTC
Do it. After speaking with the nVidia representative and hearing more about the new cards with their reduced power and noise I would want to upgrade anyways.
Alex Tremayne
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
#217 - 2012-03-25 19:25:12 UTC
Definitely want the DX11 upgrade.
Ava Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#218 - 2012-03-25 20:20:23 UTC
Jesus Christ, this again?

Every mother ******* year since Trinity I swear to god.

CCP HAS NEVER and WILL NEVER force you to upgrade your PC to the "Ultra" settings level.

On another note you can get DX11 cards for 50$, get the **** off your poor ass and upgrade your rig every once and a while, if you upgrade it for Incarna chances are you can run DX11.
Fly byNighter
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#219 - 2012-03-25 20:25:08 UTC
I cant wait for the eye candy

Thanks ccp
Altimo
Kitchen Sink Kapitals
#220 - 2012-03-25 20:46:45 UTC
Yes, and to all the nay sayers, by the time they even are able to release this, you should have your computer upgraded anyway. Time to get out of the stone age people.