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Chryonius
Asteroid Farm Unlimited
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-03-22 00:12:35 UTC
Hi

I am considering buying a new IMac soo, I was curious if anyone has any insight into performance vs pc based desktops of comparable architecture.
Zotikos Xenon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-03-22 20:53:41 UTC
If your buying it only to play Eve, then a Windows computer or iMac running Windows via bootcamp are your best options. I do play on an iMac (Maxed out version) and it works well for me, but when choosing an OS these days it's more about preference since most apps (or equivalents) can be found for both OSs.

Eve on Mac is the Windows client with another software layer between the Mac OS and the Eve client. It's called Cider(or wine) and can run just about any windows app(if configured correctly) on OS X. The huge disadvantage is the processing overhead that comes with cider, some do report better performance using Parallels to run the Eve Windows client.
Gefgarion Ankatar
The Bloody Dogs of War
#3 - 2012-03-24 08:52:58 UTC
I have an iMac and have run several different Macbook and Macbook pro models. I have also used various Alienware Laptops and Desktops. Hands down the Macs run better, faster, smoother. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF EVE!!! Play EvE on a windoze computer, then try it on a Mac. It will make you want to shoot the devs in the face with a shotgun. Performance used to be acceptable, but since around December, I've gotten crap FPS, freezes, crashes, etc. Read the forums and you will find that most others have these issues. For EvE on a Mac, I highly recommend bootcamp!
WaterTempleFiend en Marland
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-03-25 02:26:18 UTC
i bought a second hand 2011 iMac..... mac client, no bootcamp, no problems. ive heard the bootcamp version is superior but why change when nothing is wrong... can max out graphical settings :D

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=59576&find=unread - Dat mac heat up thread
Christa Larne
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-25 07:06:29 UTC
I run a Mac because I am a photographer and it is by far the better platform for the work I do. It is most definitely not the better platform for running Eve on.

If you want to run a Mac for other reasons they you can play Eve on it well enough, just don't expect a perfect experience - the installed base of Mac users is a fraction of those for Windows so realistically our bugs are going to take longer to isolate and fix. If you are buying a computer for games then I would suggest Windows.

Of course after switching to Mac 5 years ago I couldn't go back to Windows now if someone paid me (*shudder*) so I am happy to live with the quirky Eve performance.

I have a 2011 Macbook Pro with the i7 quad-core and 4GB of RAM and it runs dual clients (one on an external screen) without any problems so far.
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-25 08:28:03 UTC
I play the Eve Windows Client on my 2010 Mac Pro using Boot Camp and Windows 7 64-bit and it is flawless.

I initially tried the native Mac Client two years ago when I had a mid-2007 iMac and while it played well enough, it struggled when the graphics were upgraded at about that time. I have had my 2010 Mac Pro since new and recently bought a copy of Win 7 and a spare HDD to play Skyrim since the Mac experience of that game was limited.

Seeing how well the Win 7 integrated with the Mac under Boot Camp, I resubbed to Eve and used the Windows Client.

I know the iMac has limited space for internal drives and you can't (easily) boot off an external drive to run Win 7 but if you have a robust backup policy in place and enough drive space, you can partition your internal HDD and use t to run Boot Camp.

I would advise you buy a copy of Win 7 64-bit Home and keep your games under Boot Camp and use the lovely OS X for everything else (including browsing - I am strict about that... no IE under boot camp).
Fairhand
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-03-25 13:13:01 UTC
One thing to consider is WHEN you were thinking of buying an iMac...

The MacRumours Buying Guide for the iMac says "Don't buy - update soon" citing 327 days since last update and the average time between refreshes at 273 days.

Citation : http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ - scroll down to the iMac section near the bottom.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-03-25 13:21:58 UTC
Fairhand wrote:
One thing to consider is WHEN you were thinking of buying an iMac...

The MacRumours Buying Guide for the iMac says "Don't buy - update soon" citing 327 days since last update and the average time between refreshes at 273 days.

Citation : http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ - scroll down to the iMac section near the bottom.


Plus Intel recently announced a new Xeon, so expect a new Mac Pro to come out soon. If I was the gambling type I would put my money on a late April/early May release for desktops from Apple.

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