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Are we going to be FORCED to have DirectX 11 cards???

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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
#41 - 2012-03-25 10:15:27 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Bad enough with incarna I got booted due to system requirements. Fanfest speakers are showing these great graphics previews & asking the crowd if they want these things & of course they applaud but am I going to have to get a new mother @#$%^!!! computer every year to keep up with the speed up in video card requirements or will my DirectX 10 be good enough for another 2 years?


Not only that, but since it's going to take one team a year to get this, and the actual results are going to be less impressive than what has been shown (they cherry picked an example where tesselation works well), I'm not even sure this is worth pursuing at all. Dev resources are finite and with finishing V3s, explosions, redoing the stuff we can see in space that are not ships, POSes, etc. in the pipeline, this will probably not be a priority in the foreseeable future.

It comes down to: what do we need to get devs not to do to get this instead? Not worth it even if it's pretty.

Member of CSM 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-03-25 10:24:52 UTC
Meissa Anunthiel wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Bad enough with incarna I got booted due to system requirements. Fanfest speakers are showing these great graphics previews & asking the crowd if they want these things & of course they applaud but am I going to have to get a new mother @#$%^!!! computer every year to keep up with the speed up in video card requirements or will my DirectX 10 be good enough for another 2 years?


Not only that, but since it's going to take one team a year to get this, and the actual results are going to be less impressive than what has been shown (they cherry picked an example where tesselation works well), I'm not even sure this is worth pursuing at all. Dev resources are finite and with finishing V3s, explosions, redoing the stuff we can see in space that are not ships, POSes, etc. in the pipeline, this will probably not be a priority in the foreseeable future.

It comes down to: what do we need to get devs not to do to get this instead? Not worth it even if it's pretty.


too bad your outnumbered by the playerbase you say you represent....

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Sol Tertia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-03-25 11:00:55 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:

And not all of us were silly enough to buy a laptop expecting to run high-end games

1) Buy laptop in lieu of gaming desktop
2) Be surprised when laptop quickly becomes obselete for gaming
3) Complain on forums
4) ????
5) Profit

My gaming laptop from 2008 plays Eve fine at a decent graphics level and because games developers are aware that most people are using kit that's 4+ years old it will continue to be supported until it's just not realistic any more.
Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
Fraternity.
#44 - 2012-03-25 11:11:39 UTC
Well I run a GTX460 - 6gb DDR3ram and an I-5 processor... and I can put all settings to highest and get 55fps. This hardware is two years old and can be bought relatively cheaply now.
I always buy new rig every 3 years or so much to the annoyance of the wife but you dont have to break the Landsbanki in doing it :)
Shop around as in the current worldwide mess that is the global economy it is a buyers market for many things...

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-03-25 11:46:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Qen Tye wrote:
Has it at all occurred to all of you that tell OP to go upgrade, that not all can afford upgrades every half to whole year ?

Some people in this world have families to provide for and cant just go use cash on new hardware. My computer is 3 years now and I cannot afford new one any time soon.

Has it occurred to you , we don't care? Tough **** for you/them, the world doesn't stand still for anyone. Can't afford it, then you have to find something else to do. Why should everyone else be held back from the immense possibilities of gaming or anything else because you're broke?

You made your choice so live with it...
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#46 - 2012-03-25 11:58:26 UTC
CCP Peirz wrote:
No.


/thread.
Seriously.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-03-25 11:58:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Not all of us are neckbeard basement-dwellers. Some of us own laptops and other mobile devices that aren't upgradable.

And not all of us were silly enough to buy a laptop expecting to run high-end games


1) Buy laptop in lieu of gaming desktop
2) Be surprised when laptop quickly becomes obselete for gaming
3) Complain on forums
4) ????
5) Profit

No kidding, watching people trying to game on a stupid Tablet is hilarious.


Galadriel Vasquez wrote:
I always buy new rig every 3 years or so much to the annoyance of the wife...

Thankfully I have a wife who loves her own gamng rig(s). Hence I get to build a new rig every 12 months as long as she gets same. I just built a rig for $3K last week, a year after my last $2K rig (Not including Monitor)...
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#48 - 2012-03-25 12:10:51 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Bad enough with incarna I got booted due to system requirements. Fanfest speakers are showing these great graphics previews & asking the crowd if they want these things & of course they applaud but am I going to have to get a new mother @#$%^!!! computer every year to keep up with the speed up in video card requirements or will my DirectX 10 be good enough for another 2 years?


I think the answer is 'yes'

If you want to use your computer for cutting edge gaming experience, then 'no'.

nVidia just released part one of their new architecture with dx11.1 and intel will have ivy bridge Next month and Haswell next year.

Two years from now is going to look radically different to yesterday on the tech front - not to mention a little thing called 4K. Before you know it your computer is going to look like it's approaching the event horizon.

Welcome to the world of computers, the running cost is almost as bad as the running cost of a car....from eastern Europe.

AK

This space for rent.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#49 - 2012-03-25 18:56:53 UTC
Whether you like it not doesn't matter in regards to time. As Eve Online progresses during the next 10 years, graphics will improve as technology improves. Over time, old DX formats will be outmoded just like how snail mail was outmoded by Email and just like how a large accounting firm with 20 accountants has to lay off 15 of them because technology made it easy for manage accounting.

It's basically inevitable especially given that technology always advances and waits for no one to catch up. This is why I always upgrade.

There is also one factor that a lot of people don't know about. Tin Wiskers

From what I understand, your current hardware will fail one way or the other as these mini-gremlins wreak havoc with your circuits in the long run forcing you to replace the hardware. This is why I always upgrade when needed. There are ways to mitigate tin whiskers, but preventing them completely from occurring in the first place seems unlikely to happen.

Adapt or Die
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#50 - 2012-03-25 19:30:18 UTC
Man, I'm running a 9800gtx and I'm playing a game like Skyrim flawlessly. And here we have people calling cards which came after this one "old." haha Maybe it's time to upgrade.
Qen Tye
In Between
#51 - 2012-03-25 21:44:59 UTC
Copine Callmeknau wrote:
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Not all of us are neckbeard basement-dwellers. Some of us own laptops and other mobile devices that aren't upgradable.

And not all of us were silly enough to buy a laptop expecting to run high-end games


1) Buy laptop in lieu of gaming desktop
2) Be surprised when laptop quickly becomes obselete for gaming
3) Complain on forums
4) ????
5) Profit

And not all expect an MMORPG to be high end. Buy Battlefield if you want high end.

Funny how communities always are looking for bigger player base. Forcing people to have state of the art is not one of them.

Two possibilities exists: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.

  • Arthur C. Clarke
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#52 - 2012-03-25 21:51:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
I have an IBM Blue Ambra 386dx system and i should not be forced to upgrade it just to play eve.


In other news, a dx11 card only costs 50 bucks and can run at least 2 clients max graphics settings and stable framerate.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&Description=directx%2011&name=Desktop%20Graphics%20%2f%20Video%20Cards&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20

Prolly have to copy/paste the link due to fail bbcode

25 ******* dollars people.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-03-25 21:59:20 UTC  |  Edited by: okst666
DirectX9 is 8 years old...in terms of computers...it is like from stone age or worse.


but there is help...I know there are external graphics cards for some laptops.

[X] < Nail here for new monitor
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#54 - 2012-03-26 05:18:48 UTC
Frankly, the Destiny engine needs a brand new face lift.

It's 2001 technology still.

It's worth pursuing just to upgrade the physics engine. The pretty tesselation stuff would be awesome, but wouldn't be the selling point for me.

Frankly, I'm tired of bouncing off of Asteroids "empty spaces" because their bounding sphere in destiny is way too big.

Where I am.
jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#55 - 2012-03-26 11:08:55 UTC
it never ceases to amaze about some peoples attitude with regards improving thier gaming rigs ... they want to play high end games such as eve and others but never look at the bigger picture if manufacturers of games such as eve didnt take thier products to the next level thier products would become stale and monotonous . ccp are trying to keep this game vibrant and cutting edge and inivotive its not really rocket science to see that they want thier baby to mature and progress in a manner thats beneficial to all that plays it .

let me put this another way .. you drive a car (if you drive) most right minded thinking peeps would never drive a car if it`s been driven over 100.000 miles or ten years old ...i see no reason to NOT apply the same logic to gaming rigs when one puts this in a certain context one probably gets more usage out ones gaming rig than thier car come to that .

just my thoughts on the subject
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