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Predictions on "Incursion Iteration" coming in Pre-Inferno Patch
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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-03-25 03:50:01 UTC
Tetragammatron Prime wrote:
Andski wrote:
Kendra Wilkinson wrote:
cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?

you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.

so shut up and return in your cave


lol you think people actually do that

so, so dumb


haven't visited deklein for a while but I know last time I was there the high npc kill system for both goons and TNT were like that..same with fcon and FA systems in pb and cr

so, you are dumbbb


How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Recoil Happens
Debatable Results
#42 - 2012-03-25 03:58:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Recoil Happens
You could just ask DariusIII about the billions in lost ships his fleet suffered when he went up against an incursion mom fleet in high sec.

He'd tried it a few times by then and was losing his logi everytime, often more than once per site.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-03-25 04:00:00 UTC
Recoil Happens wrote:
You could just ask DariusIII about the billions in lost ships his fleet suffered when he went up against an incursion mom fleet in high sec.

He'd tried it a few times by then and was losing his logi everytime, often more than once per site.


You can also ask him about losing all his space in nullsec twice in one year.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#44 - 2012-03-25 04:01:02 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?


You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-03-25 04:04:02 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?


You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.


Idiots get killed every day in our space. Just because dotlan shows a bunch of NPC kills doesn't mean people are spending hours at a time completely safe from hostile roamers.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2012-03-25 04:04:42 UTC
But all this stuff about nullsec is a derail. We're supposed to be talking about how dangerous high sec incursions are.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-03-25 05:28:21 UTC
scouts become more profitable
vanguards give less isk and or take longer
HQ or w/e the next step up will get reward buff or stay the same
mothership drop decent loot even in highsec but not BPCs for the mothership, so maybe faction drones or something.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#48 - 2012-03-25 06:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?


You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.


Idiots get killed every day in our space. Just because dotlan shows a bunch of NPC kills doesn't mean people are spending hours at a time completely safe from hostile roamers.


your bots though sure seem to warp to POS whenever a non goon is in local.. coincidance I guess

I think cloaky AFKshould be allowed in all sec systems & anyone that complains about them are BOT supporters TBH
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#49 - 2012-03-25 06:42:34 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
But all this stuff about nullsec is a derail. We're supposed to be talking about how dangerous high sec incursions are.


oh? is that the thread title? go create your own thread titles troll
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#50 - 2012-03-25 06:44:13 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?


You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.


BOT magic 
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-03-25 06:47:58 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
How does a high npc kill rate have anything to do with safety? Are you implying we have some magic system of keeping hostiles out of those systems?


You do have magic ways of not being in space when reds are nearby. Unless you're a doofus and aren't watching intel channels.


BOT magic


And you have proof of all these bots in our space, right?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2012-03-25 06:49:02 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
I think cloaky AFKshould be allowed in all sec systems & anyone that complains about them are BOT supporters TBH


Go ahead and jump in a cov-ops and pay us a visit. That would mean having to leave high sec, though.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#53 - 2012-03-25 06:58:02 UTC
Anyone who says highsec incursions are not risky has obviously never run an assault or hq site more than once. Ships are lost all the time in many of those sites as organization has to be near perfect to pull them off.

Dc's or small screwups often lead to ship-loss.

Vanguards need to be nerfed, that's about it. ISK boosts from AS and HQ should be raised given their length.
General Jung
Asgard Intelligence Services
#54 - 2012-03-25 15:17:35 UTC
Hello Forum,

here are my suggestions

- 15 % lowering on VG Payouts
- 10 % increase on AS Payouts
- more then 20 % increase on HQ Payouts

One problem is that the system currently doesn´t reward the effort to form large fleets and keep them running.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-03-25 17:33:55 UTC
Chandaris wrote:
Anyone who says highsec incursions are not risky has obviously never run an assault or hq site more than once. Ships are lost all the time in many of those sites as organization has to be near perfect to pull them off.


When people talk about risk in Eve they are talking about risk from other players. Anybody who loses their ship to an NPC is dumb...it has nothing to do with risk.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#56 - 2012-03-25 17:40:53 UTC
Kendra Wilkinson wrote:
cauz really your 0.0 are risky when you farming like pigz? with cyno jam, the 20 large bbl T2 n each gate, the afk cloak?

you are just mad to not be able to gank ppl without risk like you do with miners.

so shut up and return in your cave


Do you realize there is a difference between working to make a system secure for yourself, and relying on CONCORD to babysit for you?

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Fish Hunter
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-03-25 18:02:43 UTC
Excellent if this is done right this time. I got tired of doing incursions because of the maxers always wanting more isk. Also the overuse of the word shiney. Incursions favor the high end player way too much, when competing for a site the better fleet wins every time, some sort of chance based off of % dps applied would be better instead of the stuck up guys with extra players getting the payout for every site they do. Newbs can't really compete due to the reward mechanic and of course scout sites stink.
And also knock it off with the risk analysis. Players provide the risk. If you think highsec is risk free go mine ice afk. The problem is simply that incursions at the moment are paying out too well compared with other activities.
Maximille Biagge
Hydra Eternal
#58 - 2012-03-25 18:07:00 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:

I missed hearing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING being said about Incursions in all of fanfest! What time was this mentioned ????

Maybe Iteration means that there will be a new pirate faction or Sleeper Incursion? Maybe a Jovian Incursion will replace Sansha after a Sansha Titan gets taken down I hopes :)



As if the highsec incursion lords would ever allow a sansha titan to be killed and incursions to end, everybody saw and tasted the tears when brick/kill/skunkworks went round killing the motherships Oo
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-03-25 18:22:28 UTC
- All incursions will move to captain quarters.
- Primary goal is survival from bloodthirsty female avatars with fangs.
- Each successful run around the couch will reward 100 million isk.
- Vampire themed video on flat screen will bring additional fear factor and intense audio experience.
- There will be new space ship model on the table right next to ash tray to provide promised refocusing.

Trust me - I know what I am talking about. Vampcursions are going to be awesomely evil and c00l!1

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#60 - 2012-03-25 18:27:35 UTC
My prediction: CCP keeps track of everyone in this thread who claims high sec incursions are risky and then, on the night of the patch, transports them in their shiny pirate faction battle ships into the heart of syndicate. At the very least such an approach might get them them to re-evaluate their definitions of the word "risk".

(Hint: risk involves losing a ship occasionally)

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