EVE General Discussion

The only corp that forces their membership to dock while wardecced is the University. Every other corp, big and small, they learn to adapt, they learn to play the game. The University doesn't teach people how to play the game, they farm votes for Kelduum. :)

This is only true for corps with a PvP "wing".

Those without it do what EvE Uni does, as it's the only way to make wardeccers get bored.

Attacking back is exactly what they are after. Undocking is as smart as paying ransoms: they'll just get back for more later. Paying mercs also will flag them to be wardecced later by the same mercs alts because they - duh - show they are ready to pay mercs and this is good income.

I am not sure I'll like the new wardec mechanic because when you grab all the sand off someone else's sandbox to make yours fatter, his sandbox just became pathetic and unfun.

With a "cat vs mice" mechanism it'd be more fun. Pinning the targets with no escape is just going to work so much before they suddenly recall they are paying for getting unilateral abuse.

Now, in a perfect universe it's obvious the victims would somehow call to arms, defend themselves and whatsnot.
But what happens instead is that this is a payware game and people are not risking their RL life or goods and thus they feel entitled to be able to somewhat have fun as they planned.

The new players are WAY less attached to staying in EvE than us, if they see it's a never ending p!ssing in their face since they have 200k SP, they won't think twice before leaving.

During the last five years, under the old abusive wardec system, why did they continue to keep paying? Things just got a lot better for everyone.

I have already adapted.
I know and have JCs and whatever but you like many others always think about YOU and think that anybody else talking is talking about THEM.

I am not in any scheme, I am putting myself in some 1 month old player shoes, something very uncommon both in RL and in EvE.

Whatever, WHATEVER you say here, they won't care about it, they will just quit and talk crap about EvE.

Like miners now prefer to stop mining than getting a 40% loss in yeld overtanking their wet toilet paper ships (useless anyway, just add 1 more tier 3 alpha ship) a portion of new players won't care to stay in a game in the hands of rackets and docking gamers.

The keyword is "can't be arsed". They could deal with it or adapt but it's not 2003 any more. Current players are too spoiled by alternatives, I really want to see how it will get true the Fanfest statement to make EvE the largest MMO universe by only retaining the hard mode players (0.001% of the total players pool).

Must be some other university you're talking about, E-Uni WSOP doesn't say that.

Sorry I can't hear you over the 200,000 new subscribers that Incarna brought. Oh wait, I mean the droves of people who left because of Incarna. And subscriptions skyrocketed back up the instant CCP announced a war themed expansion and more ships in space. So I guess that proves the exact opposite of what you are saying.

You are just full of hot air that doesn't represent the playerbase of EVE at all. Maybe if you undocked or *gasp* interacted with other people you'd learn about what other players want.

What if my objective is to just make your life miserable, because I don't like you very much? Seems like a valid objective to me. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it invalid.

Still looks broken to me. Its too complicated for new players. Just remove war dec mechanism. Theres more than enough ganking in eve. They don't want to let it go but they should.

i wonder how the game would balance territorialy if you just had a war option where you could fight everbody else that wanted to fight. Make your sides up as you go with standigs. All these agression and war mechanics seem anal to me. do this if this blah blah blah, You want to fight, just fight, total war, no place to hide ya know? We got channels mailing lists all kinfd of voice and forum coms. We could obsolete the whole corp infrastructure. Its as borked as the war dec from any point of view I have seen.

That's called Building a Reputation. The game doesn't need artificial barriers/enforcement.

Too bad Incarna did not tank because it was not what player wanted but because it sucked and fell so short with its one grand room where you can just fap and that's it.

Also, subs skyrocketed the instant CCP announced their refocus on SPACESHIPS not just on war. In fact guess how much did they talk about 0.0 warfare or FW in this Fanfest? Yes that little.

Finally, I interact in one day with more people you interact in one month so keep your ASSumptions for yourself.