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New Dev Blog: CSM election results

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AfroOfDoom
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-24 21:14:41 UTC
10,058

Ten thousand and fifty eight.

MMMMMMMMMMLVIII

10011101001010

However you write it, it spells one thing: Mandate.

The people of EvE have spoken: ~ chairman for life ~

~10,058~
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#22 - 2012-03-24 21:30:39 UTC
AfroOfDoom wrote:
10,058

Ten thousand and fifty eight.

MMMMMMMMMMLVIII

10011101001010

However you write it, it spells one thing: Mandate.

SOME people of EvE have spoken: ~ chairman for life ~


Corrected it for you.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#23 - 2012-03-24 21:41:33 UTC
Congrats to Hans for getting onto the CSM, though I thought you'd have got more votes than that What?

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-03-24 22:14:54 UTC
congradulations

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-03-24 22:15:46 UTC
Straight

Does it really make any difference who's in the CSM? They're all just out to shape EVE in whatever direction they'll benefit from the most, and we all know it. I'm just happy the guy I placed one of my 3 votes on was among the top-7 (the other two votes were Abstains).

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Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-24 22:17:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Duvida
AfroOfDoom wrote:
10,058

Ten thousand and fifty eight.

MMMMMMMMMMLVIII

10011101001010

However you write it, it spells one thing: Mandate.

The people of EvE have spoken: ~ chairman for life ~



If I understand correctly, many low, null and WH sec players have high-sec alts? But it still leaves anywhere from 1/2 to 1/3 of the EVE playerbase as purely high-sec.

I'd bet CCP would wonder about a CSM that was essentially saying that they didn't need to worry about that 1/2 to 1/3 of their subscription income.

Regardless of their origins, the CSM still has to look at the entire picture and present ideas that allow the whole of the game to grow. Now as to the idea that some parts might grow faster than other parts is a different deal, just as long as it results in benefit to the whole. But no neglect, please.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-03-24 22:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Taedrin
D'Kelle wrote:
How on earth can the CSM be objective and representative of the bulk of EVE players with one sided narrow minded, griefing corps like GoonWaffe at the helm, where their only interest in EVE is only whats good for them.

Yours
Disgustedly


Because unlike many other candidates, The Mittani actually takes his position in the CSM seriously and doesn't treat it as a place to play "CCP Dev". His entire platform is based on what the CSM actually is: a sounding board for CCP to use and a shield to protect EVE Players from CCP's occasional stupidity.

Compare to other candidates who seem to think that once they get into the CSM they suddenly get to start writing code and make direct game design decisions.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-03-24 22:25:46 UTC
Not amused
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-03-24 22:36:14 UTC
Riverini: "ERASING SMUGNESS ONE VOTE AT THE TIME"

I guess only 8991 smugness remains
Xiaodown
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-03-24 23:12:56 UTC
D'Kelle wrote:
How on earth can the CSM be objective and representative of the bulk of EVE players with one sided narrow minded, griefing corps like GoonWaffe at the helm, where their only interest in EVE is only whats good for them.

Yours
Disgustedly


I have been (publicly) pro-goons and anti-goons, as well as goon-neutral in my time in eve. Goonswaffe consider 0.0 to be the "end game" of Eve. I happen to share this view, as do many others, but I know that it's not universal.

However, I can tell you, categorically, that GoonWaffe (and Mittens, specifically) have the best interest of the 0.0 player in mind, be it casual players, hardcore addicts, three-day old noobs or 8 year veterans. Mittens, despite whatever affiliation you want to saddle him with, wants one thing where the CSM is concerned: CCP to be focused on making 0.0 the most fun possible for the most players possible.

I don't think that's a bad thing.
Xiaodown
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-03-24 23:18:22 UTC
Duvida wrote:
AfroOfDoom wrote:
10,058

Ten thousand and fifty eight.

MMMMMMMMMMLVIII

10011101001010

However you write it, it spells one thing: Mandate.

The people of EvE have spoken: ~ chairman for life ~



If I understand correctly, many low, null and WH sec players have high-sec alts? But it still leaves anywhere from 1/2 to 1/3 of the EVE playerbase as purely high-sec.

I'd bet CCP would wonder about a CSM that was essentially saying that they didn't need to worry about that 1/2 to 1/3 of their subscription income.

Regardless of their origins, the CSM still has to look at the entire picture and present ideas that allow the whole of the game to grow. Now as to the idea that some parts might grow faster than other parts is a different deal, just as long as it results in benefit to the whole. But no neglect, please.


Depends on how the are calculating those numbers in that person's signature. I find it hard to believe that 67% of actual playing prime accounts live in high sec, too, though. I have three characters, which means I have three characters with 50m skillpoints that live in 0.0, and 6 characters that are cyno alts in low sec / high sec. So.... yeah, if it's counting by the character and not by the primary account, 67% of my characters aren't in 0.0. I am a statistic.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#32 - 2012-03-24 23:58:56 UTC
LegendaryFrog wrote:
Congratulations Mittani in once again showing that you have the overwhelming support of the ALT Accounts


FYP
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#33 - 2012-03-25 00:09:38 UTC
Xiaodown wrote:
Duvida wrote:
AfroOfDoom wrote:
10,058

Ten thousand and fifty eight.

MMMMMMMMMMLVIII

10011101001010

However you write it, it spells one thing: Mandate.

The people of EvE have spoken: ~ chairman for life ~



If I understand correctly, many low, null and WH sec players have high-sec alts? But it still leaves anywhere from 1/2 to 1/3 of the EVE playerbase as purely high-sec.

I'd bet CCP would wonder about a CSM that was essentially saying that they didn't need to worry about that 1/2 to 1/3 of their subscription income.

Regardless of their origins, the CSM still has to look at the entire picture and present ideas that allow the whole of the game to grow. Now as to the idea that some parts might grow faster than other parts is a different deal, just as long as it results in benefit to the whole. But no neglect, please.


Depends on how the are calculating those numbers in that person's signature. I find it hard to believe that 67% of actual playing prime accounts live in high sec, too, though. I have three characters, which means I have three characters with 50m skillpoints that live in 0.0, and 6 characters that are cyno alts in low sec / high sec. So.... yeah, if it's counting by the character and not by the primary account, 67% of my characters aren't in 0.0. I am a statistic.


The data in my signature are from CCP Diagoras' tweet and they count logged in characters at a given time (november 2011 IIRC).

What do they represent exactly is moot, but if 2/3 of characters logged in are in hisec, certainly that means that hisec is relevant to players. Also there was older data telling that 24% of players were mission runners, back in 2010.

But then the CSM 7 election has been about someone inflating his ego with thousands of dedicated alt accounts, and a few good men (and a woman) actually struggling to get votes. It's fine with me, that's not my business.

Anyway, wether CCP got a clue on how the CSM relates to player base is quite moot, too. In an accident, usually the people healthy enough to cry for help are not the ones in the direst need of medical care... and IMHO, EVE is suffering from a slow but deadly silent hemorrage of people who spend some time, gather some million SP, and then find out they're already doing everything that could interest them about EVE and all what's left to keep them engaged (aka "endgame content") is nullsec.

If i had a MMORPG and found out that a mere 20% of my players log in to enjoy my endgame content, and the rest are scattered in places where they're gonna run out of a reason to play sooner than later, i would kinda worry about it.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-03-25 00:14:47 UTC
Now if nullsec and sov-warfare actually were the only interesting endgame content...
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#35 - 2012-03-25 00:36:15 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
So 8,477 voters were 30 days old... democracy at its finest. Roll


Of those accounts, I would love to know to whom they gave their votes.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jita Alt666
#36 - 2012-03-25 00:47:16 UTC
big Ups to the new zealanders - 24% of you suckers voted? nothing better to do down there?
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#37 - 2012-03-25 01:03:34 UTC
Congrats, Seleene. Nice to see that you made it.

Adapt or Die
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-03-25 01:04:36 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
So 8,477 voters were 30 days old... democracy at its finest. Roll


Of those accounts, I would love to know to whom they gave their votes.


Hopefully CCP does too.

Hopefully.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

OfBalance
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-03-25 02:45:36 UTC
Veshta Yoshida wrote:
FW is pretty much dead for me. RP has been all but killed off


And yet the turnout of voters for Hans compared to the number of active FW pilots was pathetic. I'm not saying nobody cares, but apparently a large number of FW pilots didn't seem to support their own candidate.

Pretty amusing if you ask me.
LanFear TyRaX
Lead Farmers
#40 - 2012-03-25 03:23:24 UTC
GO Two Step.

Wspace = Best space bloc is strong, I hope we can get the voting numbers by sec status, I am curious to see how many people in wspace voted to get over 4000 votes.