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incoming tengu nerfs
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Lady Miranga
Relentless Influence
#1 - 2012-03-24 09:10:17 UTC
placeholder for tears here.

What do you think is going to change?
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-03-24 10:09:52 UTC
EVERYTHING
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#3 - 2012-03-24 11:15:05 UTC
oh great CCP just when i feel like switching to try out the tengu its nerf tIME

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-03-24 13:10:34 UTC
Im guessing tengu to the ground and loki to be boosted to high heavens !

Afterall minmatars have race-right to be the best and they have been totally underpowered compared lolcaldari in this aspect.
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#5 - 2012-03-24 18:46:25 UTC
All t3 ships annoy me. The tengu isn't OP. Turns out, when you put 3 bill in most ships you get something really awesome out of it. I've killed plenty of buffer and active (not just t2 fit) tengus solo with my nano cane. Any gang that is getting solo'd by a tengu is ******** and has a fail composition of ships.

"But I thought if we just had more drakes and canes we could kill everything because we have such leet dps, right?"

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-03-24 18:59:37 UTC
God's Apples wrote:
All t3 ships annoy me. The tengu isn't OP. Turns out, when you put 3 bill in most ships you get something really awesome out of it. I've killed plenty of buffer and active (not just t2 fit) tengus solo with my nano cane. Any gang that is getting solo'd by a tengu is ******** and has a fail composition of ships.

"But I thought if we just had more drakes and canes we could kill everything because we have such leet dps, right?"


So, if I poured 3 billion into an omen, I'd get something awesome? No? What about a navy omen? Better, but it'll still diaf..what about an ashimmu? Hmm, still no. Go figure.
zariae
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-03-24 19:09:57 UTC
Where did they say something was changing?
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-24 19:16:25 UTC
Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-03-24 19:26:42 UTC
Artemis Ahab wrote:
Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?



Put 3B in a Proteus and try it to in null.

Great, now you can ambush with a 3B Proteus, defenceless ships, and lazy AFK ones. ho w8

So, what is your mega nerf on the road that made you jizzle this stupid thread?
M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#10 - 2012-03-24 20:32:06 UTC
DEATH TO THOSE 100MN AB 2x T2 ANCILARY RIGGED GODAWFUL TENGUS

What it really needs is a decent subsystem that goes with MWD's

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-03-24 20:45:37 UTC
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
DEATH TO THOSE 100MN AB 2x T2 ANCILARY RIGGED GODAWFUL TENGUS

What it really needs is a decent subsystem that goes with MWD's



Now this is a reasonable guy.

100MN AB -problem when you can fit an oversized module in whatever hull = this is the core of the problem, not the ship.

T2 rigs -not a problem.

Well, 100mn lokis, 100mn legions are also overpowered then. Nerf them devs, nerf them.... ?
Derth Ramir
Fight The Blob
#12 - 2012-03-24 21:51:46 UTC
The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out.

Fight The Blob.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-24 22:18:50 UTC
Did they say anything specifically, as in "we are going to nerf Tengu"? Or is this because of the promised ship rebalancing and tiericide? Personally I'd prefer it if they buffed other T3s to be in line with Tengu.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-25 00:12:26 UTC
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Did they say anything specifically, as in "we are going to nerf Tengu"? Or is this because of the promised ship rebalancing and tiericide? Personally I'd prefer it if they buffed other T3s to be in line with Tengu.


yes, please buff my proteus and loki, they are clearly not good enough at the moment.... Roll

in all seriousness, only T3 that need balancing, with a buff, is the legion.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#15 - 2012-03-25 01:07:30 UTC
Would anyone care to link a source for this alleged tengu nerf?
God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#16 - 2012-03-25 01:41:26 UTC
Artemis Ahab wrote:
Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?


I had to remove the photon and invul because the KB won't take it.

http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=82124 Not 100mn, still spensive.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-03-25 03:16:17 UTC
That's really not what we had in mind.

Also: lol test server.
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#18 - 2012-03-25 03:47:08 UTC
Derth Ramir wrote:
The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out.
Purty much this. I'm flying around in a 100mn AB Tengu at the moment with no links. About as manueverable as a school bus. Can get some nice speed, eventually... but with out the mindlinks to boost agility, plus the extra speed, the extended point range, and shield bonuses it's not THAT great.

That being said, it will still be nerfed. Why? Cuz I'm using one. Anything I use gets nerfed eventually.
NOS - Nerfbat Homerun!
Drones - Bandwidth/Scoop nerf
RSDs - Script nerf
Recons - Speed/ECM nerf
Deep Space Probes - Nerfbat Homerun!
Corp Recruitment in Space - Exploit! (only took once for that one to get nailed)
War Decs - DecShield okay'd
Can-Flipping - Proposed Crimewatch nerf
Tengu - .....?
Artemis Ahab
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-25 04:03:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Artemis Ahab
God's Apples wrote:
Artemis Ahab wrote:
Also, God's do you have a KM link if you soloing a faction/deadspace fit tengu? Battleclinic doesn't have you listed as killing any. At all. But hey, it IS battleclinic after all. So, benefit of the doubt, provide said linky?


I had to remove the photon and invul because the KB won't take it.

http://test.true-sansha.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=82124 Not 100mn, still spensive.


Ok, manually posted one minute before you linked it. Have an API verified one?

Edit:: Wait, that's on the test server. How about one from the ACTUAL game. Roll
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-03-25 04:07:24 UTC
Vladimir Norkoff wrote:
Derth Ramir wrote:
The problem is not the 100mn tech 3s, the problem is when these ships are paired up with tech 3 links giving the illusion that they have overpowered active tanks with ungodly speeds. Try using a 100mn tech 3 without links and see how it turns out.
Purty much this. I'm flying around in a 100mn AB Tengu at the moment with no links. About as manueverable as a school bus. Can get some nice speed, eventually... but with out the mindlinks to boost agility, plus the extra speed, the extended point range, and shield bonuses it's not THAT great.

That being said, it will still be nerfed. Why? Cuz I'm using one. Anything I use gets nerfed eventually.
NOS - Nerfbat Homerun!
Drones - Bandwidth/Scoop nerf
RSDs - Script nerf
Recons - Speed/ECM nerf
Deep Space Probes - Nerfbat Homerun!
Corp Recruitment in Space - Exploit! (only took once for that one to get nailed)
War Decs - DecShield okay'd
Can-Flipping - Proposed Crimewatch nerf
Tengu - .....?

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