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CCP finally plans somthing against moon goo.
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Lexmana
#81 - 2012-03-24 05:33:01 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.

Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#82 - 2012-03-24 05:56:08 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Lexmana wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.

Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL.

hi sec bots are worse them lo sec bots HA
lol the bots in NULL created how many of the titans? lol what a big pile of BS get rid of hi sec
peeps that beach most about incursions are mostly BOTs because incursions can't be botted profitably
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Lexmana
#83 - 2012-03-24 06:02:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lexmana
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
[quote=Endeavour Starfleet]The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.[/quote
Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL


lol there are no bots in NULL lolol trololo what a big pile of BS lol
peeps that beach most about incursions are mostly BOTs because incursions can't be botted

There are more bots in caldari hisec alone than the rest of New Eden. Yeah, and remove local too ... there are no bots in unknown space.
Hecatonis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-03-24 06:11:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Hecatonis
Mortis vonShadow wrote:
Xython wrote:
On an aside, is there a nice synopsis of the presentation, or a recording, or somesuch? I unfortunately had to miss it for class.


You have no class, you're a Goon.


i liked this one.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#85 - 2012-03-24 06:13:35 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
[quote=Endeavour Starfleet]The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.[/quote
Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL


lol there are no bots in NULL lolol trololo what a big pile of BS lol
peeps that beach most about incursions are mostly BOTs because incursions can't be botted

There are more bots in caldari hisec alone than the rest of New Eden. Yeah, and remove local too ... there are no bots in unknown space.



ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null? you have many points which say you may be right but the rumours about NULL alliances shielding bots are endemic. CCP ever say bots are anywhere in paticular? NULL is in some ways eaier to bot IMHO becuase if there is any1 in local boom they can disappear to POS... in hi sec they are easier to spot in many ways, no?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Endeavour Starfleet
#86 - 2012-03-24 06:49:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Just going to say that I highly doubt most of the bots are in EDIT: Highsec *I fail at posting*. Now with most large scale alliances having rules against blue bot reporting and the massive amount of RMT from nullsec.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2012-03-24 07:17:06 UTC
\0/ a feature I have been waiting on for a while and it is also solving a problem at the same time!!!!

Bonus!
Null Sec Miners GO!!

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-03-24 07:28:10 UTC
Mining moon goo with ships sounds okay.

The question I have is why not just do R32 alchemy. The system is already being used for R64 moons, why not use it for R32?

I have nothing against mining moon goo with ships so long as the supply is large compared to the amount available in moons.
Lexmana
#89 - 2012-03-24 08:30:18 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Just going to say that I highly doubt most of the bots are in EDIT: Highsec *I fail at posting*. Now with most large scale alliances having rules against blue bot reporting and the massive amount of RMT from nullsec.


DarthNefarius wrote:
ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null? you have many points which say you may be right but the rumours about NULL alliances shielding bots are endemic. CCP ever say bots are anywhere in paticular? NULL is in some ways eaier to bot IMHO becuase if there is any1 in local boom they can disappear to POS... in hi sec they are easier to spot in many ways, no?


I did 'prove it' already on page 2 of this thread. But I guess your tin-foil hats are strong against this one.

It is a bit blurry but here you go:

https://twitter.com/#!/Seleene_EVE/status/183181587096158208/photo/1/large
Endeavour Starfleet
#90 - 2012-03-25 04:56:11 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.

Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL.


Hisec is here to stay. Fix nullsec before you decide to nuke most of the game from orbit.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-03-25 04:58:03 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null?


The data came directly from CCP.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Endeavour Starfleet
#92 - 2012-03-25 05:11:05 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null?


The data came directly from CCP.


The data they can detect. I am no longer convinced they have even the remote ability to detect the smart bots that gets used by the nullsec RMT cheaters. And alliances run with "Don't report blues" that is why I don't think the "PLEX for video cards" is a good idea.

This is why in my opinion the replacement for moon goo needs from the very start to be designed to foil even the smartest bots. So we don't have large alliances replacing their moon goo with bot goo.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2012-03-25 05:15:31 UTC
Some of you need to take the tinfoil hats off and stop snorting so much coke before taking to the forums. The paranoia is getting ridiculous.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Endeavour Starfleet
#94 - 2012-03-25 05:20:28 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Some of you need to take the tinfoil hats off and stop snorting so much coke before taking to the forums. The paranoia is getting ridiculous.


If you don't see the potential for bots taking over this new system then I don't know how goons keep you around. Then again the idea that active players participating in anything besides CTAs (And thus asking for more in return) must be a nightmare for many nullsec alliances.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#95 - 2012-03-25 05:30:57 UTC
better idea - prevent idiot npc forum alts from making dumb threads
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#96 - 2012-03-25 06:10:16 UTC
Your bots are worse than my bots. No yours. No you...

FFS, bots are bots no matter where they are you bunch of pedantic morons!

If there's anything that can possibly be twisted into a divisive hi sec/ low sec / null sec argument in this game, you lot will find it.

Mr Epeen Cool
Msgerbs
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2012-03-25 06:11:42 UTC
Nothing that expands on incursions can ever be a good thing, unless that expansion comes in the form of expanded ways to disrupt them.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-03-25 06:27:43 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null?


The data came directly from CCP.


The data they can detect. I am no longer convinced they have even the remote ability to detect the smart bots that gets used by the nullsec RMT cheaters. And alliances run with "Don't report blues" that is why I don't think the "PLEX for video cards" is a good idea.

This is why in my opinion the replacement for moon goo needs from the very start to be designed to foil even the smartest bots. So we don't have large alliances replacing their moon goo with bot goo.


i love how you just don't stop harping on about that because you don't understand how a large alliance works because, lol, hisec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#99 - 2012-03-25 06:31:00 UTC
Andski wrote:
i love how you just don't stop harping on about that because you don't understand how a large alliance works because, lol, hisec

I love the 'more moongoo to supply the market= more isk for RMT' idea
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-03-25 06:34:39 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Andski wrote:
i love how you just don't stop harping on about that because you don't understand how a large alliance works because, lol, hisec

I love the 'more moongoo to supply the market= more isk for RMT' idea


towering a tech moon just makes your corp wallet tick every hour with 1b didn't you hear

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar