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Cailais
The Red Pill Taker Group
#21 - 2012-03-22 14:59:08 UTC
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?


Well you cant do that because its er...erm..nnnrr,,,mmmm...huuurrr....derp.

Hope that answered your question? Who's next?

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Razin
The Scope
#22 - 2012-03-22 15:15:18 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?


I assume its watched based on payment / account linking methodes?... #cantthinkofsomethingelse

Not a very good system and still exploitable. There's also an issue of collusion (I kill your disposable -10 alt and you kill mine, etc.).
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
#23 - 2012-03-22 15:22:06 UTC
I suppose a lot of things are exploitable in EVE, but this change out weighs the bad I think. There will be more pew pew over the poo poo.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#24 - 2012-03-22 15:28:45 UTC
TheSmokingHertog wrote:
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?


I assume its watched based on payment / account linking methodes?... #cantthinkofsomethingelse



Account linking? That's too high tech.

Considering this a rumor until I see it happen.

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Mathias Hex
#25 - 2012-03-22 18:09:38 UTC
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?


I would think spending isk for a .001 or whatever security gain would be counterproductive. I doubt the security gains will be significant.

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Serene Repose
#26 - 2012-03-22 18:48:44 UTC
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Kale Kold
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-03-22 18:49:19 UTC
Josefius wrote:
Bonus for killing low security status people is going to help things a lot in Lowsec :D About damn time.

I hope you all come to lowsec! please come, please!.... Pirate

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Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-03-22 18:54:29 UTC
Mathias Hex wrote:
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?


I would think spending isk for a .001 or whatever security gain would be counterproductive. I doubt the security gains will be significant.


If you put em in a shuttle, then any amount of sec gain will be well worth the 8k isk spent.
Dirael Papier
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#29 - 2012-03-22 18:58:45 UTC
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?

CCP Greyscale wrote:

Current plan is that the bonus you get for killing someone is halved for every time you've previously killed that person in the last 28 days, with the "halved" subject to further balancing. That should prevent at least the most obvious exploit cases.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=979586#post979586
Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
#30 - 2012-03-22 19:13:15 UTC
Love this!

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-03-22 19:32:14 UTC
How to repair sec status after this update.

1. Create an alt to shoot at ships in hi-sec with (actually destroying them is optional)
2. After alt gets to -10 take them to lowsec.
3. Relocate their clone to lowsec
4. Gank alt until sec status is repaired.

Sounds like a stealth suicide ganking buff. Not saying that I support or am against suicide ganking but people will no longer have to spend time retraining new suicide ganker characters.

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Photosynth
#32 - 2012-03-22 19:58:23 UTC
Dirael Papier wrote:
Razin wrote:
So gaining sec status from killing your -10 alt is prevented how?

CCP Greyscale wrote:

Current plan is that the bonus you get for killing someone is halved for every time you've previously killed that person in the last 28 days, with the "halved" subject to further balancing. That should prevent at least the most obvious exploit cases.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=979586#post979586


So a pirate corp has each member make an alt, and they all take turns killing all their alts. There could even be "shoot us!" corps who, for a fee, let you kill all their members so you can get a sec status gain.

Another way could be to have the sec status gain be related to the ship value destroyed. If low sec status people are willing to spend a huge amount of money buying their alts expensive ships, then sure they can meta-game their sec status up.

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Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#33 - 2012-03-22 21:01:54 UTC
I think I speak for most of the other -10 players by stating that I would welcome the opportunity to entertain someone looking to increase their sec status.

Honestly, I don't think this will make much of a difference, since the biggest factor keeping the low-sec population low is a pilots aversion to risk. We already get your weekend warrior crews running through low sec playing anti-pirate.

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Adunh Slavy
#34 - 2012-03-22 21:42:32 UTC
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
I think I speak for most of the other -10 players by stating that I would welcome the opportunity to entertain someone looking to increase their sec status.

Honestly, I don't think this will make much of a difference, since the biggest factor keeping the low-sec population low is a pilots aversion to risk. We already get your weekend warrior crews running through low sec playing anti-pirate.



As a +5 that likes my toys in high sec, I'll be glad to come play with you now that I won't get stuck and low sec and be flagged along with the rest of you pirate scum. Smile

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Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2012-03-22 22:11:43 UTC
Make the sec boost only posible to win once per every char you kill. Fixed.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#36 - 2012-03-24 01:03:26 UTC
let me share this link with all of you, notes on the talk > Link

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Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-03-24 01:22:07 UTC
ANYTHING to give low-sec some love is awesome.

Alt-killing exploit would be easy to design against. Once per char, as stated, or exponentially diminishing returns.

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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#38 - 2012-03-24 01:24:14 UTC
Pro-tip: If some of the well-known short-bus riders in here have already figured out how to exploit this new system, it's a ****** change.
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