Missions & Complexes

No it is not broken, I have done a few recently and received mods.

See above.

Hmm fair enough just thought I'd check it out thanks for to those who took the time to answer intelligently.

As I said in the OP not getting something 6 or even 8 out of 10 times i would put down to bad luck never seeing any module at all, even a crappy one, out of every run I've done, or a run done by anyone I've spoken to, made me suspicious. At the end of the day just bad luck meh.

Sir Livingston I fly in Syndicate I always have expensive implants and extend you an invitation to visit at your leisure. I don't need your help to get the good loot I make billions weekly running sites just never had any (much) joy out of this particular site hence my query here. Thanks all the same.

A better question to ask is:

Why isn't the drop rate nigh on guaranteed for this plex?

It's an unsoloable plex unless it glitches. No single (or maybe a 10 bil version of a marauder?) subcab ship can do 1500 dps to break the bastion. Seeing that it requires adequate assistance, you should get a guaranteed drop.

I have done this 4 times in Sansha space so far and only received the Overseer effects.

In my honest opinion, plex's need to be redone. You should get some version of guaranteed loot from unrated and rated plexes. I just did an unrated risking my ship nigh on 3 times (siege pulse laser turrets -- shudder) and received no faction ship or escalation.

I am specifically referring to this plex in particular, not the rest. Of course i understand the need for rarity, it's simple economics and market behavior. But for a plex that (assuming it doesn't glitch) requires 3 fairly high dps boats, you would think a reward higher than 60 mil should be at least more favored to you.

And contrary to popular belief, flying reimbursable ships in a clone without implants does not constitute risk. Soloing incredibly hard plexes alone with the possibility of losing said ship, however, is.

Other than "What is this, i don't even", i would like to add that you are already guaranteed a drop, namely the Overseer Effects.

Would you agree that the ~80 mil the 8/10 overseer's effects is worth was comparatively more money years ago when it was introduced than it is now? Sure the overseer's effects drops everytime, but unlike the plex modules (that don't always drop and in my experience, drop sparingly) they don't scale with the amount of isk readily available to the playerbase. And it's pretty clear that there is a great deal more isk in the game than there was years ago (see supercap proliferation).

80mil just really isn't that much anymore, especially for an hour or two of work in nullsec in a complex in pve ships with a very real risk of getting ganked

Imo they should look at rescaling NPC buy orders for overseer's effects. OR, they could do something neat like have officers stop dropping actual officer mods, but instead drop BPC's for those mods, and those BPC's require overseer's effects as a material. Makes the overseer's effects market player driven and solves the problem assuming they balance out the BPC's correctly or whatever.

That idea probably wouldn't work because how many plexes are run and how little officers are found in comparison, but whatever--could have the plexes drop officer BPC's and the overseer's effects are used for those

Either way, the issue is that the NPC buy orders for overseer's effects need to be rebalanced or removed completely ala the PI mat NPC buy order removal.

Wrong, clearly the current game mechanics (Overseer's effects dropping every time) suggest that CCP intended plexes be an alternative to missions/anoms with a guaranteed reward for the effort put in, and a potential jackpot as a reward for the extra effort put in to scan the site, get a couple players together, work through the site, and the need to move out of your home system(s) to do it, putting yourself at more risk.

I'm not saying to make it any less variable either. I'm just saying that the OPE value should be scaled upwards to make the minimum isk/hour obtained from the sites higher.

I guess the only thing to do is remove bluefests.

>Implying there is a great deal of effort required to anything PvE related in this game. It's a relative scale m8, try to think things through before you post.