Science & Industry

...the hell?

Link, please.

Such a move makes no logical sense, the Faction warfare corps' primary focus is the prosecution of the lowsec conflicts between the empires, not Research and Development.

I understand the desire, even the need to remove the passive acquisition of datacores as ocours under the current mechanics, however in order to remain constant with the current backstory, not to mention a lot of people's playstyles, an active acquisition should still be centred around the existing R&D corporations.

Perhaps the OP's goal was to drive up the price on datacores so they can unload their stock? That's more the tactic in Market Discussions, but you never know.

This is a wonderful idea!

Much <3 to the new CCP

Reduction, not removal.

As long as the market value doesn't change significantly, I'm not too bothered. I'm not a huge fan of almost entirely passive income.

If they go through with a 'general decrease' in the amount of datacores which can be earned actively from R&D agents then they should offer a way to 'actively' earn them from R&D agents. C'mon.

Not sure what FW has to do with R&D of private companies. Roden Shipyards operates in multiple sovereign spaces, as well as many of the research based NPC corps. If anything one could make the case that while they align primarily with a single faction the non-statist NPC corps try to maintain a sense of neutrality between factions.

What we really need is a way to actively obtain datacores. Heck I would love to see more exploration sites which drop datacores not just decryptors. That'd be a start. But some form of active 'research' mini-game would work too.

My 2 ISK for now

I've done the maths, and datacore farming is already a very low income.
I can't see how they could lower it.

And it won't change the fact that 00 T2 producters cannot build stuff on their own (datacores found in RADAR sites are a joke).

Arbitrarily reducing the rewards of research is a very bad idea, to take away what people have earned.

Unless, of course, they are going to combine it with taking away all the tech II BPOs that some people use as their cash cows.

The two mechanics are very similar, being things that were acquired, and also they provide easy permanent isk flow once the hard work (or lucky draw, or investment) was done.

If CCP does in fact decide to nerf both of these things, I just hope they do it slowly and over time, so that those that are losing value, can recover at least some of their loss.

Not like many are going to take the time to read this, but... incoming rage/logic/wtfcommunity post.

I joined this community on the single idea that, you couldn't be a ****** to play this game. It has the best weed whacker I've seen to date. Is it in our nature to be annoying as well? I mean really... ~75% of the people I've met in Eve can't stop complaining. One change here and there and the whole world is falling apart for you guys.

May I explain some logic to you cowards that think the market will go down the shitter once a change like this goes through...?

Honestly, would you really want the RP gains to remain the same. Think about the market. If the RP and Datacores remained the same, but CCP implemented the FW LP Datacores, prices would drop. They are reducing the amounts of datacores that can be put out to maintain the pricing that is in place to the best of their ability. Sure, adding FW Datacores seems a little strange, but you could toss in some lore as an argument and datacores would be justified. Obviously, the prices on datacores will change, but the goal is to limit that change. I mean... I've already iterated above this post... The word choice of the dev post was well placed.

Find something else to complain about, really.

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Sorry man, the key words in my post were "General Decrease." I don't know where you learned to translate from, but I'm sure English to English is pretty straight forward.

I already explained above why the market shouldn't be too affected by this change. Just to add, people probably won't waste their time buying datacores, seeing as there are other things they will be adding for FW LP that would relate to what people want. only people with alts that need money will buy them. who would waste their time putting an alt into FW if they need money? FW is suposed to be an ISK sink. kthx.

FW is a combat Profession. T2 Production happens primarily in high sec, but the acquirement of T2 materials often happens via some form of necessary combat. One could attribute your need to see a link between the two to one small issue: Link T2 Production with half (more than) the fighting involved in the game. Factions can't fight over more than just the need to fight? Learn to read between the lines man.

The T2 BPO's are a delicate disruption to the game. People have valid arguments that work both ways. umad.

Your last comment really has no strong points, thus... this was fun!

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In any case... I'm done defending CCP for the moment. I think this idea isn't 100% stupid, but it isn't a solution at all.