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How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP

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Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#121 - 2012-03-23 16:39:22 UTC
The only ones quitting due to removing high sec PVP are the pussies who lack the balls to go to the places CCP provide for PVP, you may have heard of low sec and null sec, thats where most PVP players get their rocks off, and not hiding behind concord protection while they cherry pick their targets to dec knowing full well they outclass them in every way for guarenteed easy kills..

People just mad they wont be able to buff their KB with easy kills against non PVP players in high sec who dont know how to shoot back and will be forced to come to low/null and fight other - oh my gosh - PVP'ers who actually can and will shoot you back to the point you return to high sec with your carebear tail between your legs, and eventually - fingers crossed - quit EVE.

TLDR - Cry moar and jog on.
Selissa Shadoe
#122 - 2012-03-23 17:13:12 UTC
Please won't someone think of the bullying gankers who want EASY kills against targets that cannot preemptively defend themselves.

Roll

"Whether suicide ganking or doing anything in eve, there are exorbitant amounts of people in the game and on the forums that are complete jerks." - Spikeflach
Lord Helghast
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2012-03-23 17:16:15 UTC
What idiots there not removing highsec PVP, there just making it that if you try to PVP your gonna get PVP because anyone can pick the fight with you not just the n00b that you canflipped...

Sorry the days of "i'm an outlaw badass"... (but only against those people that i choose to harass) are going to end, you want to be a badass then be a badass but be ready to take on the other 10 people in the belt as well.
Mathias Hex
#124 - 2012-03-23 17:27:11 UTC
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
And now carebears control this thread.


If you cant lowsec pvp doesnt that make you a carebear?? IMO a high security sytem should have high security... I'm 3 months old and I go to lowsec and wormholes just for a thrill if your outnumbered find a new system or die trying to get out, try it sometime its really quite exhillerating

I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-03-23 17:42:21 UTC
I certainly won't be.

I lied :o
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#126 - 2012-03-23 17:44:02 UTC
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
Refer to the subject.

If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"

Just curious.



Clueless carebear idiot makes inflammatory and ******** thread about mechanics changes that he is too stupid to understand. Stands by his assertions that High Sec PVP is being "removed".


*My carebear definition is of a risk averse person that utilizes mechanics to avoid risk of death by PVP. Hence, this person is a carebear, but a miner in 0.0 space is not.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Killer Gandry
The Concilium Enterprises
#127 - 2012-03-23 17:45:14 UTC
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
And now carebears control this thread.


Better carebears control this thread than newly created alts who's mains are afraid to step up with those mains.
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#128 - 2012-03-23 17:47:05 UTC
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
Refer to the subject.

If you are to lazy to check again "How many Players will quit the game due to the complete removal of High-sec PVP"

Just curious.


I personally hope all dumb-@$$es like you that create an alt just to post on the forums.
Alua Oresson
Aegis Ascending
Solyaris Chtonium
#129 - 2012-03-23 17:48:07 UTC
Killer Gandry wrote:
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
And now carebears control this thread.


Better carebears control this thread than newly created alts who's mains are afraid to step up with those mains.




This as well.

http://pvpwannabe.blogspot.com/
Sasha Azala
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-03-23 18:01:31 UTC
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:
Carebears Control Playerbase wrote:
How many cowards will quit the game due to the complete removal of risk-free High-sec PVP


Fixed for ya. No need to thank me.



Is hiding in a fleet 10 times the size of the other not cowardly?


Tell us how brave you are can flipping noobs


I'm not saying it isn't, I hardly do that myself. I declare war on other high sec Pvp corporations. It's human nature to play, fight, claw, bite you're way to be the best and win a fight, does that not make everyone a coward?



Who would be the biggest coward, someone that runs away from a fair fight or someone who chooses to fight only those battles they have little chance of losing. Does not sound like there's much between them.

War is not about honour, it's about survival.
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#131 - 2012-03-23 18:06:48 UTC
so your no risk neutral rr is getting nerfed?

mak cry thread evertim :'(

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
Sinfulness
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2012-03-23 18:07:56 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.



Lol
Rao Kappa
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2012-03-23 18:13:23 UTC
This thread delivers.

/carry_on
Spacing Cowboy
Perkone
Caldari State
#134 - 2012-03-23 18:16:56 UTC
The only issue i see is a upcomming nerf to deliver player justice to mining bots..

Thats it..

If the nerfbat, makes the awsome leet highsec pvp'ers ragequit, and keeps more new players ingame to grow into " low / wh / 0. " meat...
A sacrifice well done i say.

Highsec wardecs is just noob bashing, nothing more, nothing less.
If you can't cut it in player controlled space, you end up calling yourself a "highsec pvp'er" .

Just another name for a canflipper really :p


But indeed, eve is surpose to be a cold harsh world, but having training-wheels space ( highsec ) , ain't a bad thing.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#135 - 2012-03-23 18:33:01 UTC
wtf are you guys smoking and where can I get a bag?

I haven't heard thing one about the new wardec system. Is it broken right now? F*** yah it is. Everybody knows that it's not news. Unitl we actually hear what they are planning to do to fix highsec wars stfu.

The can flippers in highsec is a non-issue. It's fine, and the change is overdue anyway. It should have been that way at launch. The addition of salvaging drones is actually going to make ninja looting easier, I'd imagine. Ninjas always need to move quickly and be prepared to run anyway. In practice this will not deter ninjas at all... the irony is watching the highsec carebear version of the ninja complain about not being ale to steal in safety. Cry me a river. It's fine and maybe you'll be able to get some hero fit mission ship to agress you which would be great for your buddies.

We still don't know anything about the highsec "death ray" other than they are calling it a death ray. If this is all just on paper I don't even know wtf you are bitching about.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Kerist Lafayette
The Lafayette Family
#136 - 2012-03-23 18:35:20 UTC
As a carebear I would probably welcome a reduction/elimination of non-consensual PVP, but I have to admit it'd make Hisec a much more boring place. Couldn't they (partially) compensate it by making suicide ganking a bit more exciting? I don't know exactly how - perhaps delay Concord's intervention, perhaps create Concord-free areas with high-value minerals or complexes, perhaps reduce the reach and speed of reaction of Concord during incursions...

There must be an element of risk in Hisec, otherwise there will be no point to playing Eve at all, it'll become Farmville in space. Just my opinion, mind you.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#137 - 2012-03-23 18:39:33 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Not enough thats for sure.

Real men PvP in 0.0 or Whs


And real men PvE in belts in null. Get that belt mining boost out already. Get the anomaly, lv4, and highsec incursion nerf out already. Get the belt ratting boost out already.

Null was always supposed to be endgame, now only bots reside in belts. Players are in upgraded sov fortresses or 'safe' highsec income. I think it'd be too much to ask them to grow some balls and move out in the belts, so let's move out the isk there again instead, shall we?

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#138 - 2012-03-23 18:41:31 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.


They way you're going about with the game, we might soon have it.

* All relevant income can be done safely in highsec - check.
* No incentitives or fun PvP with the biggest blob taking over the game - check.

I stopped PvPing some years ago when this was blantantly obvious, now I'm just casual carebearing and calling your bullshit out until you fix the game back to the PvP centered sandbox it once was.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#139 - 2012-03-23 18:43:00 UTC
patrick elektros wrote:
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.



There was no problem. Hisec aggression-mechanics worked fine, it's not the rest of our fault that,

A) Most of these idiot carebears refuse to learn the most basic aspects of the game.
B) The parts of hisec shenanigans that are problems--neutral RR not getting aggro-flagged, dec-shielding, the Orca SMA-nerf--were ones that you still haven't fixed, and/or have actively shat on in the case of the SMA nerf (hisec Orcas only, carriers in losec can still play their idiotic station-games, and do.)

Why don't you just admit that you want to turn EVE into just another generic **** MMO, and have done with it?

It's so bloody obvious, and has been for a long time. Because what I've seen from you in that other thread about this is one of the most downright pants-on-head ******** things I've ever seen from you. And that's saying something.




well after listening to the stream on the subject it seems to me that PVP will become more prevalent, as an example;
NOW- a greifer steals from a can, only that person (noob corp), or fleet members (correct, it's beena while since i been in hisec) or other player owned corp members can shoot the griefer, so weaker corps and noob corp members are pretty much on their own.
PLANNED- if a griefer steals from a can they become suspect and therefore flashy red to everyone, so anyone will be able to shoot them, so i think you'll actually get merc corps prob hired no by weaker corps without having to pay for war decs to protect carebears, carebears in turn will start helping each other and will start gaining experience and that's just a couple possibilities

i think this is actually a good move in the right direction for hisec pvp away from gank to actual pvp, not that ganks wont happen, but it will get more neutrals in hisec to blue eachother because they're helped eachother out when others were in need

good idea CCP Greyscale :)




Exactly. Anti-Pirate corps or anti-griefer corps will actually have the tool to help enforce law (get pew). Systems with ice belts and major trade hubs will see more planned pvp, and fights/conflicts can escalate instead of dying with a whimper.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#140 - 2012-03-23 18:49:36 UTC
I thought about it and you know what, I will quit eve because of all high sec crap. And yes I have liquidated all of my assets into isk and I will give all that away in a trade contract for 1 trit. First person to find my contract becomes a lucky (wo)man.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?