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Nedz pabst
Pabst Transport and Trading inc.
#1 - 2012-03-23 14:58:17 UTC
well as a newbee hauler i am going slow whit the small hauls in my ilteron mark IV.
i only take the small conracts now and only on stuff whit a low value.
the reason for that is that i get ganked almost every 3 day outside jita 4 moon 4.
but it still not help me at all.
i feel like it is a tradeblocade some times.

my frustration over this is making me considder deleting my char. Sad
i hope it will help getting an obelisk just for the hp.
but it takes time and isk to get one and if i am not doing hauls i wont get isk to get one but at the rate i am loosing ships atm.
i will probl never get that big hauler.

do anny one got the same problems and what are you doing about it?
Ravnik
Infinate Horizon
#2 - 2012-03-23 15:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ravnik
Is ilteron Mark IV the T2 version of the Iteron?

The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly..........
Skorpynekomimi
#3 - 2012-03-23 15:07:44 UTC
Jita is suicide gank central, precisely because of all the trade.

Tank your industrial, don't fly blithely around on autopilot, and use insta-undock bookmarks.

Hell, I use insta-undocks in some places just to avoid being constantly bumped by the stream of traffic.

Economic PVP
Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#4 - 2012-03-23 15:09:18 UTC
If you fly a t2 hauler, either the huge tank one or cloaky its a lot harder for people to gank you (as long as your paying attention)

Even a t1can be a little harder to gank so long as your not afk and have a tank.
Tom from Accounting
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-03-23 15:36:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom from Accounting
Here's a thought - don't haul in/out of Jita.

Go to another hub like Rens or Amarr when first starting out.

Here's another thought - put some tank on your hauler so it can survive a few shots until Concord comes to your rescue.
Alberik
Eusebius Corporation
#6 - 2012-03-23 16:04:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Alberik
i fly around jita for years now and wasnt ganked once, even scanning my ship happens so often.
after all i always use a insta-warp-point.

buy a fast ship, fly straight forward from the undock at station at least 150km, more is better and make a bookmark.

now after undock do nothing except a single right click, select the bookmark and warp to. your angle on undock is somewhere between +/-15°, so its best if your bookmark is excatly at 0° .. needs sometimes more tries to make one.

if i fly empty i think i get scanned about 10% of undocks when i decide to skip the insta-warp. are you sure you arent at war with someone?
Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-03-23 17:08:18 UTC
accept contracts on an alt, trade to hauler, trade back to alt at destination, profit

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
Kyr Evotorin
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-03-23 17:13:15 UTC
This guy is either trolling hard or doesn't realize he's undocking in quafe itty's. you guys lose, or he's derpy as all get up.

As for one other thing mentioned here:

Iteron Mark IV is the fourth of five T1 industrials for the gallente. If you don't know that, ouch... researching is hard.

Gallente Industrials:

Iteron
Iteron Mark II
Iteron Mark III
Iteron Mark IV
Iteron Mark IV Quafe Ultra Edition
Iteron Mark V

Occator
Viator

Obelisk

Anshar
Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
#9 - 2012-03-23 17:31:01 UTC
Nedz pabst wrote:
... and what are you doing about it?


I don't trade @Jita

There are other trade hubs.
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-03-23 18:11:30 UTC
Guys, I think it's time to stop wasting your time offering serious advice:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12817223
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12824734

OP, 6/10 because people don't check killboards when offering advice to others on the subject "y i get ganked???" Can't say I blame them, but anyway, not too bad.
Darronis Olachenko
#11 - 2012-03-23 19:46:51 UTC
Ajita al Tchar wrote:
Guys, I think it's time to stop wasting your time offering serious advice:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12817223


What the actual hell...
Jastra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-03-23 20:32:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jastra
on the off chance you really are a new player.

1) No where is safe, you are maybe safe (high sec) or definitively not safe (low sec or 0.0)

2) Jita logs more ship kills than anywhere else, if you have the quafe ship you should be watching fanfest where they showed today that more ships get popped there than pretty much anywhere

3) Create warp off bookmarks

4) Do not fly an expensive "shoot me" limited run ship unless you really want to lose it because someone wants your ship on their killboard, simple

5) Do not haul expensive stuff in a "shoot me" half a bil value hauler with no mods

6) seriously buy an itty 2 and put some mods on it until you can fly a viator, then fly a viator until you can use a orca or freighter

7) Do not fly with cargo you cannot afford to lose, also dont fly in irreplaceable ships
Tozmeister
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-23 21:11:07 UTC
Guys, Guys, calm down. This guy is right...



Nedz pabst wrote:


my frustration over this is making me considder deleting my char. Sad




...he probably should delete his character
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#14 - 2012-03-23 21:20:02 UTC
It may seem excessive, but if I need something of moderate value moved out of the 4-4 station, I'll foot the 10-15mil isk for a courier like Red Frog.

I love Red Frog.
Cayden Xios
#15 - 2012-03-23 22:23:28 UTC
I really hope this guy is trolling. Flying that much money around inside an Itty IV? Why...
Tikera Tissant
#16 - 2012-03-23 23:09:11 UTC
Ajita al Tchar wrote:
Guys, I think it's time to stop wasting your time offering serious advice:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12817223
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12824734

OP, 6/10 because people don't check killboards when offering advice to others on the subject "y i get ganked???" Can't say I blame them, but anyway, not too bad.


The first kill is just... people are damn stupid sometimes.

But the second, I don't see the point of it really. To gank just to kill that ship? What a waste of isk...
Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#17 - 2012-03-24 03:05:48 UTC
WTF never fly those unique ships people will gank you just because of the ship.

Just quit.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2012-03-24 03:21:39 UTC
Momoyo wrote:
If you fly a t2 hauler, either the huge tank one or cloaky its a lot harder for people to gank you (as long as your paying attention)

Even a t1can be a little harder to gank so long as your not afk and have a tank.

Yes, with the blockade runner, a little bit of sense and a covops cloak can make you almost impossible to catch, so I'm told. And this is from people who bring stuff though gatecamps and even into enemy territory.

But yes, get the Gallente Industrial V and then try out a blockade runner. I don't think the deep space transport is that great a deal. Freighters I don't know much about.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-03-24 12:28:08 UTC
As you can see OP, Eve Online is full of heartless twits.

I was ganked in an Itty III with 1b worth of cargo last year. It was my fault. Since then I've contracted my hauling to others. Haul in an ordinary Iteron (not the Quafe edition) and ideally less than 100-200m isk worth of cargo. Or if the stuff is small, do it in a fast ship.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2012-03-24 12:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Nedz pabst wrote:
well as a newbee hauler i am going slow whit the small hauls in my ilteron mark IV.
i only take the small conracts now and only on stuff whit a low value.
the reason for that is that i get ganked almost every 3 day outside jita 4 moon 4.
but it still not help me at all.
i feel like it is a tradeblocade some times.

my frustration over this is making me considder deleting my char. Sad
i hope it will help getting an obelisk just for the hp.
but it takes time and isk to get one and if i am not doing hauls i wont get isk to get one but at the rate i am loosing ships atm.
i will probl never get that big hauler.

do anny one got the same problems and what are you doing about it?



This smacks of too much fakery and TROLLERY.

Real people thinking of leaving will just leave, NOT asking for advice, or will change game, not delete the character. What, delete it and start another to do it all over again?

If real: Trade ELSEWHERE. Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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