EVE General Discussion

I was adamantly against this idea for a very long time, but now I think it might be the only decent solution. Let the bears roll characters on a pve server and foam at the mouth over the primitive barter economy that will doubtlessly develop there. Disallow any and all forms of pvp, so that shard's players can only mine and do other pve crap. Don't allow any type of movement between the shards.

Sure, TQ's player count will drop, but at least we'll stop bleeding the players who actually count. They can have their three-month turnover rates, and we can have our smaller, but stabler, harsher, and more unforgiving universe. I'd rather have this than lose EVE entirely.

I think most of ya'll are jumping the gun. There's conflicting statements that need clearing up.

Not enough thats for sure.

Real men PvP in 0.0 or Whs

That had nothing to do with being children or whatever.

I was playing MUDs during the glorious "blue boxing" days on international lines, at 300 baud (!).

You know what was different?

That those who made those early games were programmers (like me) who did not give a f*ck about shares, marketing, balance sheets and so on. A guy or 3 would sit down, hack some older scripts and create marvellous text engines (with content and richness no modern MMO can even dare to rival).

Then a couple of those programmers got fame and some money. This attracted fat wallet investors who were, are and will be exclusively after money.

During the years the marvellous text engines targetting 100 concurrent online players evolved into "MASSIVE multiplayer RPGs" boasting 10,000 accounts. Then the usual hyperbolic process started, bigger investors smelled the money and MMOs became mainstream money making machines featuring up to millions of subscriptions.

Only way to go from 100 dedicated tech savy nerds online to 10 millions is to drop the bar to the common denominator and this includes jerks, idiots, crybabies, trolls and a sea of baddies.

The shareholders don't care who pays them, the more the better.

Money, and not changed behavior is what made MMOs go from gothic magnificent text fantasy experiences into canned shiny garbage catering to everybody.

You were not better, you were just nerdier.

Actually, we have a server where all PvP is consensual (sorta). Sisi. Let them go mine on Sisi.

There's no need to change hisec pvp. What seriosuly needs a change is bounty hunting. Being hunted should suppose a threat to the prey being hunted.

I mean, the average hisec ganking scoundrel should emoragequit upon being put a price on its head and find out what that meant once serious PvP began hunting him.

Much as in my proposal here:

EVE Retaliation: a rework of the bounty hunting system

I hear that if you go to lowsec or nullsec, or the wardec is with someone who can actually fight back then there is actually quite alot of pvp in this game.
Stop beating up people weaker than you, its demeaning.

What we're actually doing is removing both hisec and PvP from the game entirely. It seems like the fairest way to solve this problem.

Oh, **** off you generic carebear troll, spouting generic carebear baby-drivel.