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Rifter Solo Kill of an Orca
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Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-03-22 21:28:48 UTC
I call boolsh!te.
Ubiquitous Forum Alt
#22 - 2012-03-22 22:00:03 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Ubiquitous Forum Alt wrote:
Unbonused hobgoblin IIs should be able to kill a rifter easily......Unless they seriously nerfed drones since the last time I looked...or buffed the rifter's tanking ability pretty insanely....

A) if you have T2 drones, they are bonused.

B) Do you know how easy drones are for a frig to shoot down while keeping a point on a target like a orca?
Had a carrier get tackled a while back. Tackler killed something like 30 assorted drones before I managed to swamp him with a wave of EC-600s and warp out. The drones an orca carries will be cleared in seconds, and then he can get back to work on the orca itself.

Plus, I have seen quite a few orcas loading mining drones to improve overall op haul.

A) Spank was the one who said they were unbonused, and I'm too lazy to check the hull bonuses, so take it up with him.

B)
The rifter here didn't even have t2 guns....Meaning he can't 1-hit your drones, probably closer to 3-5 hits each at best.....And if you CBA to pull and re-deploy drones as they get attacked to keep him from killing any of them - in a ship where said drones are your ONLY defence - then yes, you DESERVE to be killed.....

Additionally, I'm not thinking the rifter was epically tanked.....so he would Probably die fairly fast....

So basically - ONLY an Orca flown by a MORON can be killed by a rifter like this....Any competent orca pilot should be able to do one of the following to survive the engagement, even if he is dumb enough to aggro the rifter for some unknown reason in the first place:

A) Kill the rifter and fly away
B) Get someone to come help...not like he didn't have time after all
C) Carry some ECM drones (in addition to mining and combat drones) and use them to simply fly away

I don't log in - I don't need to. My very existence griefs people. They see my name, and they instinctively fill with rage and indignation. Deny it all you want - but if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted, would you?
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#23 - 2012-03-22 22:23:51 UTC
Ubiquitous Forum Alt wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Ubiquitous Forum Alt wrote:
Unbonused hobgoblin IIs should be able to kill a rifter easily......Unless they seriously nerfed drones since the last time I looked...or buffed the rifter's tanking ability pretty insanely....

A) if you have T2 drones, they are bonused.

B) Do you know how easy drones are for a frig to shoot down while keeping a point on a target like a orca?
Had a carrier get tackled a while back. Tackler killed something like 30 assorted drones before I managed to swamp him with a wave of EC-600s and warp out. The drones an orca carries will be cleared in seconds, and then he can get back to work on the orca itself.

Plus, I have seen quite a few orcas loading mining drones to improve overall op haul.

A) Spank was the one who said they were unbonused, and I'm too lazy to check the hull bonuses, so take it up with him.

B)
The rifter here didn't even have t2 guns....Meaning he can't 1-hit your drones, probably closer to 3-5 hits each at best.....And if you CBA to pull and re-deploy drones as they get attacked to keep him from killing any of them - in a ship where said drones are your ONLY defence - then yes, you DESERVE to be killed.....

Additionally, I'm not thinking the rifter was epically tanked.....so he would Probably die fairly fast....

So basically - ONLY an Orca flown by a MORON can be killed by a rifter like this....Any competent orca pilot should be able to do one of the following to survive the engagement, even if he is dumb enough to aggro the rifter for some unknown reason in the first place:

A) Kill the rifter and fly away
B) Get someone to come help...not like he didn't have time after all
C) Carry some ECM drones (in addition to mining and combat drones) and use them to simply fly away

A) You get drone bonuses from skills. That is what I was referring to.
B) Pulling your drones magically makes both you immune to additional damage instantly repairs your drones?

More likely than a moron, someone who trained straight to orca who is unable to field T2 drones(I have an alt whos interesting, industry oriented training led to drones 5 about the same time she could fly a JF, and LONG after training orca)

Not all of us can fly everything fully T2, and sometimes compromises are made in the combat integrity of non-combat ships.

TL;DR, maybe not a moron, could just be an effective noob.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#24 - 2012-03-23 00:57:06 UTC
Presumably he didn't want that Orca anyway.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
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