EVE General Discussion

The problem is that CCP had 2 teams working on real EVE... that's about 10-20 people out of 600 employees. That's team BFF and Gridlock. Okay, not all 600 employees are necessarily developers... security guys do security, economics guys watch the market, lunchladies dish up sloppy joes. You've got everyone else doing GI Joes and Barbies.

And the thing is, 30% network 30% new content 40% fixes is still around 5X as many people as they've had working on EVE for the past 2 1/2 years, but even such, those categories can overlap quite a bit... for example, adding a super-carrier-killing-battleship will reduce network load (fighterbomber lag killed 0.0) fixes a problem (broken game balance) and adds something new (completely changes the nature of 0.0 warfare.)

That one change alone can fix 80% of the problem with EVE right now, except it would not fix the problem with CCP. I look forward to a day when players don't feel the need to gripe on the forums in an attempt to babysit CCP.

while I am in the 120< mil SP club, and I do agree with you, some extra content wouldn't hurt. hell, like I saw on another thread, having the 2 expansions per year splitted in 1 for mostly iterations and another for mostly new content would be an interesting to develop this game further.


....then again, iterations might bring fresh content themselves (in the form of fixed and finished content), so who knows.

while I do agree that a dedicated balance team would probably be a good idea, it must be said that it's very hard to come up with balance while maintaining status quo on four different types of playstyles that each of the races cater to.

there is also one of the problems of being a sandbox where all of the sudden somebody uses something in a way the devs haven't anticipated, IE: somebody used a pitchfork as an arrow.

100% behind that. I like new stuff too but... look at CQ, look at the ships and then look at the UI...

Incarna? Sure! Cool! Can we get the rest of the game on par first?

We shall see, soon...

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Nice of CCP dev’s to give the masses some indication of what they propose to do in the future, near or otherwise, also that they have finally condescended to admit that the players do have a positive part to play in the development of this game.

The revisions proposed, no matter how they are ‘Spun’ up are in fact ‘reversions’ to an earlier state in the game but only in part, few I know in game have used or are ever intending to use the much vaunted CQ environment, preferring to look at a closed door than be dictated to in this manner by CCP.

I quick scan through the members of my corporation gives an indication of the distain they look upon this change with, ‘No eyeglasses, No fancy blouses and boots’ AUR amounts fixed at 2000, in short they are just not interested in that aspect of the game at all on any level, so that was a scrub from before it was imposed.

Let us go beyond that matter and look at the changes they enforced upon players in the name of ‘Better gaming environment and greater player interaction’.

Jump bridges, meant to force players into the clutches of rabid PvP’ers, said in forum players would not let this make a difference to their interactions and why, and it does not, FAIL.

Proposed changes to Super caps, not introduced, resulted in huge area’s of 0.0 space currently unoccupied by anything other than POS gathering huge amounts of ISK for a single entity, bit of a problem for players to interact with empty space, FAIL.

Proposed changes to Sovereignty mechanics not introduced, again huge area’s of 0.0 in the hands of a single entity so compressing vast numbers of players into smaller and smaller area’s, good for inter Corp politics, not good for the game as a whole, FAIL.

In short almost everything designed by CCP to force players to do something has in reality failed miserably when all players have ever asked CCP to do is take the crayons of those crack head script kiddies they employ and ‘force them’, to fix what they broke in the first place, like perma jamming ratz and POS mechanics, simple stuff that really does effect the gaming environment in a negative manner to name but two.

Looking back over the years I have been involved with this game it has become more apparent that the one thing CCP lacks is insight into what makes people who play EVE actually play it at all, and the one thing it is not is rampant PvP for all, it’s there if you want it, but not as the staple fare of the game.
What actually makes players play this game is the game itself, a multi facet micro environment that takes intelligent use of time and skill to master, just like R/L in many ways, and just like in R/L if something does not work correctly, if at all the customer will either complain or just not buy the product.

CCP you broke your product, stunted its growth by not addressing issues that the player’s, your customers find a problem to their game play and enjoyment, to date you have stoically refused to acknowledge this and to all apparent information still intend to do so, FAIL.

IMO, this game actually started losing focus not long after they created the CSM

Way back when, someone originally asked CCP of the lifespawn of EvE. If I recall, the figure was around 15 years (based on current technology & ideas back then!).

Now the CSM should be getting back to the roots. Start at the simplest level, what's broke (or not working as intended) & go from there. Leave the Game Development to CCP. If they screw up bad enough, the forums will light up like an Xmas tree to let them know.

BUT Remember, 80% of the userbase doesn't even use the forums or have never posted on them so you are their unspoken voices.

Eve is a complex game which should remain so. Any dumbing down will result in the loss of the player base who wanted somethng different.

The thing that I agree on is that "CCP should listen its players more", but overall I think most marks were missed.

In my opinion the most important problems to solve are eve turning into "supercaps online" and accumulation of wealth to the already wealthy, while those in weak position (no lucrative moons) are weakened further (anomaly change).

While I do like the idea of walking-in-stations, above issues should be given top priority.

I have stopped sub because eve has become boring. Maybe if there are changes in above issues I may resub. Or if there finally will be meaningful game content on the stations. Until then o/

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