Crime & Punishment

Wow.

The self-defeating stupidity of this is jaw-dropping.
Allow me to paraphrase a bit for you:

"I'm angry at what CCP is doing, therefore I will do everything in my power to make myself an active threat to CCP's revenue stream, thus holding them hostage to my desires."

Hostage-taking only works when you've got actual hostages.
CCP can:
1) Ignore you (you are a very small flea in a rather large sandbox). <- Most likely event
2) Ban you.
3) Change game mechanics to make you ineffectual.
4) Some combination of the above.

You can:
1) Scream in impotent rage.
2) Throw temper tantrums.
3) Hassle a relatively small number of hapless and innocent folks whom have no part of your anger, and couldn't do a thing about it even if they did.
4) Quit.
5) Get over it.
6) Some combination of the above.

So tell me - Who has the whip hand here?

The Jita Riots barely managed to make CCP budge. Can you manage to muster that kind of influence..? Nope. And we all know it. You can't get remotely remotely close to that level of action. So - what are your chances of changing anything? Zero. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

All you're doing is pitching a fit - in public. Where everyone can see how powerless you truly are.

While the rest of your comment calls me a "nobody", I laughed at this reference. I was there.

Kudos to post 121 from Joyelle and post 122 from Subdolus Venator! I wish I had posted exactly what you both said as it is my precise take on these children.

Reading thru their drivel reminds me of a corp chat not long ago when four noobs just up and decided they were going on a roam. Three were about 10 days old and their intrepid leader was nearly a month old! They had about 12 hisec systems to traverse before venturing into the losec system of their choice and all along the way they were nervously giggling about kicking ass, and how their "fleet" was "gonna rule" and "bring smoke".

Well, they were not my proteges and they used their option to not follow advice from someone other than their corp assigned mentor, so I sent their mentor a message with a heads up about four butthurts to come back dragging ass after a total failure outing and becoming sadly disheartened - then I sat back and enjoyed the chat traffic as they took all their hopes of making great things happen, only to find out they were just a few pebbles fighting against the downhill face of a glacier.

To get a good idea of how they sounded on the way out - just go back and read the richard swinging E-PEEN bravado in so many of the posts in this thread.

Hey dinosaurs! CCP wants to make money and they have the statistics to show where it comes from and what the contributors to that revenue stream want in a game and it is not you or what you do to other players any more.

If you truly want "fair fights", which is a total lie anyway, go dec another corp that is looking for "fair fights". Oh, that's right, you know there aren't any corps like that. The fair fight you are looking for IS ganking that 2-3 month old player in his first exhumer. Fair to you is when no one can shoot back and you can time your exit before getting concorded - and even if you don't get out in time, what's another rifter or thrasher? You will just take your alt on some hisec incursions to bankroll your next gank and come even closer to finding out what you will eventually realize as soon as you get over your testosterone and come to grips with knowing that, hey these incursions are not so bad and it's a lot more fun being with players who run them than the jerks you go aganking with.

Or not, and you will find another game built for letting internet bullies chase away new subs but has not realized as yet which side of the bread has the butter.

I haven't taken the time to count how many have signed on to this race into oblivion - the OP, who hasn't done anything in my 8 years of playing to rise to where I might even recognize him, does not seem to be anyone who can stir up a following any larger than a few other lame brain knuckle draggers. When I just slide thru the very few pages, it seems the faces are repeated many times on each page. Ppl like me, it seems at least, come in to point and laugh then go away, while the "hardcore" (oh, grrr) keep parsing the posts of the passersby and making stupid comments about the out of context words they have quoted - but that is so typical of how losing causes work on these forums. I know they will leap to point out the obvious inconsistency of my 8 years of playing (started in Dec 2003, so ok... 8 years and 3 months) and the birthday of this puny alt. Of course this is an alt I bought to do manufacturing! OH NOES - is this one of the unfair game mechanics of which they complain? Allowing those who do not want to invite unwanted ganks and fruitless war decs by posting their opinions freely with an undercover brother alt?

As some other earlier poster said so well - you are obsolete, but just don't know it yet... or something like that - sorry for mangling your fine words and being too lazy to quote you properly.

Oh wait, I think I hear players approaching who have not yet recognized their lack of efficacy - they always overcome any lame attempts at stealth with those obnoxious (and like themselves) out-dated Beavis and Butthead snorts and giggles....

Take it away, Junior Brains!

These guys can't get it up without beating up on noobs & Cripples they've never understood why thier fathers told them they should never hit girls so they take out thier frustrations in this game. Hopefully they let it out here & not in RL
In the end its a game & i they don't play according to the rules they'll get a time out by mommy or daddy will send them to bed without supper unless he gets REALLY mad & smacks them in the behind with the ban belt
I'm curious what the next exploit they'll find TBH I bet they are smacking themselves in the head for not trying Garmons triple web exploight ( ooops that was in null sec & they're to scared to go there without the night light on )

Alas, the OP and his ilk have no interest in the future of EVE - only in the future of their own entertainment. The two are NOT necessarily congruent, though that concept has not yet occurred to them.

Deductive reasoning and analysis do not seem to be their strong suits.

Believe me, the concept has occured to us.

Perhaps. But if so, it appears you simply do not care about the longer-term conesquences of success, should you through some miracle achieve your goals, and nothing you've said so far generates any respect for your position in me.

The Bad Fact is this: Games change. That is one of the verry few indisputable constants.

Evolve, or die.

Oh my!

He has such depth! It has occurred to them, and yet they plod on to certain failure.

Should we hold them in the same light as Texans have held the last contingent at the Battle of the Alamo?

Are they to be revered as the small contingent holding out to serve a higher purpose which will inspire a generation to rise up and join their cause against the evil powers bent on being mean to them.

Are they to be seen as the underdogs of the Battle of Thermopylae

Are they on par with a small fighting element in one village standing up against the might of Ghengis Khan's Mongol Horde?

Are they to held to the same standard of demonstrated bravery as the Aztecs when their very well trained faced off to lose their culture to the better equipped Spaniards?

Actually, I see them more as a few kids outside of the 7/11 plotting on how they are going to run in and strike lightening fast to grab some candy and run out just as fast. Sure, it might work against some fat attendants, but eventually, they will hit the door for a quick exit just as the beat cop is going in for a donut after the police have gotten so many calls about nuisances doing snatch and runs that the police have been diverted to doing more frequent checks on targetted vendors.

They did call it a crime spree, but it looks like it will be a crime fizzle.

Line those thumbs up...

Tah'ris Khlador - thank you for your reply. I apologize to you as I gave you the same broad brush technique as I did to those who profess failure at any cost.

It seems you and I share more similarities of opinion than I was smart enough to glean from your post.

Good luck in the game!

And what happens when your position/opinion changes? You going to burn the world down for the next guy? and the next? and the next? What happens when the whole world is nothing but ashes? A sad little king with nothing to hear you scream about how there is nothing to scream about. Its a cycle man, don't you see that? Us carebears are not exempt from this same concept. I play eve because its fun and it has more risk factors than other mmos on the market. I do not want to see this game become WOW.