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Requesting 150m loan - I ended up bankrupt

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Ariana DeSoto
High-Tech Duct Tape
#21 - 2012-03-21 16:56:42 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
Ariana DeSoto wrote:
Shar Tegral wrote:
Antonios Tiberius wrote:
Never give money to someone that has gone broke.

Silly newbs.

I do what I please whenever I please simply because I want to do it and I can afford to do it any way I want.

Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not.
Don't whine for me, don't whine at me.

But you guys are cute. I wonder what you'll be like when you grow up.


This. A million times. In their quest to become an uber cool intergalactic space Fonzi the forum warriors have forgotten how
to have fun and do stuff just for the ***** and giggles.

Unbunch your undies and roll the dice once in a while. Cool



I feel a bit ill saying this but i have to agree with this.

Now excuse me while i put my hands in acid so i never type that i agree with a goon again.


You have taken your first step in your journey towards the Dark Side. We have cookies. Lol

I don't always play EvE, but when I do, I prefer it to be a masochistic sandbox hell. Stay wardecked my friends.

Steel Wraith
#22 - 2012-03-21 17:14:16 UTC
Shar Tegral wrote:
As I tell many, there is a time to follow conventional wisdom and there are times not to follow it. I occasionally step away from the common herd and gamble on an individual. Sometimes it works out and I profit in more than just isk. Sometimes it does not and the loss is limited to just isk - at least on my part.


If you only ever follow the same set of logical rules, you'll only ever converge on local optima. Sometimes it's a good idea to do something crazy for a chance at that global optimum.

So, who wants to give me a whole lot of isk? Ha, I kid.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-03-21 17:22:29 UTC
I guess IF you play Eve to "have fun" and "meet people", then that's reasonable.

However, if you play Eve to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women, which is the way it should be played, then you're not doing very well here.

:P
Kara Roideater
#24 - 2012-03-21 17:52:11 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
I guess IF you play Eve to "have fun" and "meet people", then that's reasonable.

However, if you play Eve to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women, which is the way it should be played, then you're not doing very well here.

:P


To hear the lamentations of an eve player's woman you just have to go round to his house and listen to his woman while he is playing eve. Crushing him and driving him out of the game will probably earn you a bunch of flowers.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#25 - 2012-03-22 04:07:22 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
Ariana DeSoto wrote:
Shar Tegral wrote:
Antonios Tiberius wrote:
Never give money to someone that has gone broke.

Silly newbs.

I do what I please whenever I please simply because I want to do it and I can afford to do it any way I want.

Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not.
Don't whine for me, don't whine at me.

But you guys are cute. I wonder what you'll be like when you grow up.


This. A million times. In their quest to become an uber cool intergalactic space Fonzi the forum warriors have forgotten how
to have fun and do stuff just for the ***** and giggles.

Unbunch your undies and roll the dice once in a while. Cool



I feel a bit ill saying this but i have to agree with this.

Now excuse me while i put my hands in acid so i never type that i agree with a goon again.


Merch aren't real goons so you're okay.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo

Ariana DeSoto
High-Tech Duct Tape
#26 - 2012-03-22 14:18:38 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Xylem Viliana wrote:
Ariana DeSoto wrote:
Shar Tegral wrote:
Antonios Tiberius wrote:
Never give money to someone that has gone broke.

Silly newbs.

I do what I please whenever I please simply because I want to do it and I can afford to do it any way I want.

Sometimes it works out, sometimes it does not.
Don't whine for me, don't whine at me.

But you guys are cute. I wonder what you'll be like when you grow up.


This. A million times. In their quest to become an uber cool intergalactic space Fonzi the forum warriors have forgotten how
to have fun and do stuff just for the ***** and giggles.

Unbunch your undies and roll the dice once in a while. Cool



I feel a bit ill saying this but i have to agree with this.

Now excuse me while i put my hands in acid so i never type that i agree with a goon again.


Merch aren't real goons so you're okay.


It's true. We're not really goons. We're more like the idiot friend that comes over, drinks all your beer, passes out on the couch,
and then wets himself.

I don't always play EvE, but when I do, I prefer it to be a masochistic sandbox hell. Stay wardecked my friends.

Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-03-23 12:00:24 UTC
Shar Tegral wrote:
[sigh]

For some of you this is a rare opportunity to laugh at my expense and I can appreciate how much this means for those. Equally some feel obligated to use this occasion as reinforcement of the common Eve rules of thumb. It is indeed such a time however do not think I don't know the "common wisdom".

As I tell many, there is a time to follow conventional wisdom and there are times not to follow it. I occasionally step away from the common herd and gamble on an individual. Sometimes it works out and I profit in more than just isk. Sometimes it does not and the loss is limited to just isk - at least on my part.

For my part: I only posted the results so as to help others avoid trusting someone who is not trustworthy.

Nothing more, nothing less.


If you want to help newbs take a cruiser out to Arnon, Sheroo etc and help them with "burning down the hive" or killing Dagan. I've forgotten how many people I've helped kill Dagan. They are less likely to be scammers and more likely to appreciate your help.
Shar Tegral
#28 - 2012-03-23 16:33:23 UTC
Anya Ohaya wrote:
If you want to help newbs take a cruiser out to Arnon, Sheroo etc and help them with "burning down the hive" or killing Dagan. I've forgotten how many people I've helped kill Dagan. They are less likely to be scammers and more likely to appreciate your help.

Thank you for your unwanted and unnecessary suggestion.

If I need someone to tell me something off topic that I may or may not have the time to do I'll call you.
Zanzil C
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-03-23 21:20:45 UTC
There should be an "Unlike" or, even better, "Die in a Fire" button for all those dikkheads above who bashed on the wonderful gesture of Shar Tegral to help a digital character with some of his/her spare game currency.

Lesson 1 of EvE should be: When you engage in EvE, you should be careful not to become a bully and a bastard. Be yourself, be nice, and good things will happen to you and the EvE community.

Thank you Shar Tegral for being different and nice. It's people like you who make this game enjoyable, because they put a lot of effort in acting maturely, helping when needed and caring for the community. I hope to fly with you one day.
Shar Tegral
#30 - 2012-03-23 21:32:31 UTC
Zanzil C wrote:
Thank you Shar Tegral for being different and nice not so much of a prick this time.

Fixed it for you.

Don't be misled, I really am not a nice person on these forums or in life.
That's not bragging or some badge of honor, just a plain truth.
Ariana DeSoto
High-Tech Duct Tape
#31 - 2012-03-23 21:42:44 UTC
Zanzil C wrote:
"Die in a Fire" button


+1 for a "Die in a fire" button. Twisted

I don't always play EvE, but when I do, I prefer it to be a masochistic sandbox hell. Stay wardecked my friends.

Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#32 - 2012-03-25 09:30:13 UTC
+1 diaf button. I would be completely immolated by now I"m sure.

Also, came expecting scam and loaner tears. Left mostly satisfied.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Poison
The KOZ Conglomerate
#33 - 2012-03-25 20:00:27 UTC
Shar Tegral wrote:
Zanzil C wrote:
Thank you Shar Tegral for being different and nice not so much of a prick this time.

Fixed it for you.

Don't be misled, I really am not a nice person on these forums or in life.
That's not bragging or some badge of honor, just a plain truth.



Shar why bother. These people dont understand it takes a few min to make 150m and its our money to do with what we please.
Shar Tegral
#34 - 2012-03-26 11:05:30 UTC
Poison wrote:
These people dont understand it takes a few min to make 150m and its our money to do with what we please.
I agree with the second half: It is indeed ours to do with as we wish foolishly or not. However I still have a bit of respect for 100m isk.

I remember my thrill at making my first mil, then 10, then 100. Of course this was back in '03 when bounties were miserly (compared by today's standards) and the missioning side of the game just this side of non-existent. Of course you could also kill NPC convoys that dropped BPO's and Harvester Drones. Today, however, you can easily see a new player make their first million isk on the same day. But that first 100 million is still a milestone.

In fact I know many people whose wallets hover around 100 million. Seems to be a magic number for many. It is enough to get an l4 mission ship, if they are not wise enough to have one squirreled away. It is also enough seed money to get started in trading. Granted 1 billion isk is starting, from what I've seen, to become the new "casual" standard but 10 million was before 100 million replaced it. I presume 1 billion is because it is the next rational number in the minds of most and it can buy 2, maybe 1.8, plexes.

Starting last week I myself only had 42 million in available isk. Of course I've liquidated a fair bit of stuff, caught the market in a few nice upswings Lol, but if I had not socked away stuffs I'd have probably had to mission for about 4 - 6 hours to make 150m. Okay, maybe 3 - 4. Hard to say.

But I'll never lose respect and wonder at 100m mark.

Be it my first or only 100m.
Uppsy Daisy
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-03-26 15:33:30 UTC
Shar Tegral wrote:
Zanzil C wrote:
Thank you Shar Tegral for being different and nice not so much of a prick this time.

Fixed it for you.

Don't be misled, I really am not a nice person on these forums or in life.
That's not bragging or some badge of honor, just a plain truth.


But I thought you were a minister in RL?!
Shar Tegral
#36 - 2012-03-26 15:54:44 UTC
Uppsy Daisy wrote:
But I thought you were a minister in RL?!

I am.

I have several good qualities but being "nice" is not one I have inherently. I do practice, alot, but suffering fools (of which Eve has many) is still one area I have yet to make any progress on.

PS: Here's a picture of me blessing a habitat home for the new owners. You'll need to be logged into FB as the photo is not mine or on my account. I am tagged in it however.

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