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Eve Addicts - Now with new features...
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Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-18 17:41:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Snarf Aldes
I thought is was about time to create an 'official' Eve Addicts topic, so I can respond to questions etc.

Recent changes:

  • Item list can be named, should make it easier to keep them apart.
  • Market scanner is now location aware. If you jump regions while scanning, a new list of items will be loaded for the new region.
  • Market scanner is now aware of other people using it it the same region, each will get their own list of items. This should eliminate the problem of people scanning the same items in the same region.
  • Logical groups added to the region selector (empire and trade hubs).


Snarf Aldes

-- If you use sites such as evemarketeer, eve-central, eve.addicts, etc. please consider uploading price date to those sites. They are only useful as long as there is enough fresh data...

Creator of Eve Addicts
Desmont McCallock
#2 - 2012-03-18 19:45:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Desmont McCallock
I like the UI.

Expect EVEMon to feed you on its next release. Get prepared for some heavy data managing.

Edit: Just a small suggestion. Use capital 'M' for months. It gets confused for minutes.
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-19 06:59:20 UTC
Cool.

When you say 'feed you on its next release', i assume you mean pull price data from the API, or is there some hidden upload feature in EVEMon that i don't know about?

Creator of Eve Addicts
Desmont McCallock
#4 - 2012-03-19 07:00:38 UTC
Patients my friend and you'll see.
Desmont McCallock
#5 - 2012-03-19 15:26:09 UTC
Just another note: Upon resizing the browser the right hand side panel gets dislocated. It's probable a table design issue.
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-03-20 06:47:55 UTC
Desmont McCallock wrote:
Just another note: Upon resizing the browser the right hand side panel gets dislocated. It's probable a table design issue.

I know, it's a side effect of the way i position the div blocks. I assume a minimal browser width of 1280 pixels, on smaller screen it messes up the positioning.
I'll have a look at it.

Creator of Eve Addicts
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#7 - 2012-03-20 13:26:53 UTC
Snarf Aldes wrote:
Desmont McCallock wrote:
Just another note: Upon resizing the browser the right hand side panel gets dislocated. It's probable a table design issue.

I know, it's a side effect of the way i position the div blocks. I assume a minimal browser width of 1280 pixels, on smaller screen it messes up the positioning.
I'll have a look at it.


1280 is too big of an assumption. The safer number is still around 1000px wide (so it works on 1024x768 screens or on people who keep their browser non-maximized).
Andy DelGardo
#8 - 2012-03-20 21:48:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
Is there some trick to minimize the market window while the scanning is running? Also is there anything i can do to make it as fast as possible? Some general "noob" proof tutorial would be nice, for the setup, upload and actual scanning tasks.

Btw someone has a tutorial how to setup eve + the scanner on a server, with minimal GPU/MEM/CPU consumption, so that the scanner can run 24/7?
Axari
#9 - 2012-03-21 01:53:49 UTC
Do you offer a table (csv, mysql, xml, etc) download, of items in Jita 4-4, with an average/median sell price per item? I know you have an API, but for 4-5k items, I imagine a download would be less overhead for both of us?

If you don't, but would consider making something like that available, then you might also consider including the average/median buy price as well.

I really like the site design btw, and the 'new' feel.
Andy DelGardo
#10 - 2012-03-21 10:15:11 UTC
Btw is there a way to see how old the shown data is?
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#11 - 2012-03-21 15:26:32 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:
Is there some trick to minimize the market window while the scanning is running? Also is there anything i can do to make it as fast as possible? Some general "noob" proof tutorial would be nice, for the setup, upload and actual scanning tasks.


a) No you cannot minimize the market window as EVE will just re-open it each time the IGB makes the Javascript call to look up an item.

b) You cannot make it "as fast as possible" any faster then about 1 lookup every 3.0-3.5 seconds. If you attempt to call the EVE Javascript functions too fast, the client will just block your request and stop looking up items at all. (3.5 seconds seems to be the "safe" number, the closer you try to get to 3.0 seconds the more likely that you'll get bit.)
Andy DelGardo
#12 - 2012-03-21 15:44:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
Thx Master of uploads Bob :p

Btw are u running on a server, with multiple accounts for scanning? How do i "correctly" setup 2 accounts on the same machine, i noticed i get 2 different keys? Atm i just added 2x uploads in the 0.6 tool api, but i guess i may send redundant data?

Some more questions pls:

Do u also handle daily shutdown manually or u have a tool to relogin and start the scan process again?
Is there some "organized" group, on who scans which parts of new eden or is everyone just sitting in jita?
How is your setup running atm? Multiple trail accounts or simply a scanner char on one account 24/7?
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-03-21 16:04:09 UTC
Axari wrote:
Do you offer a table (csv, mysql, xml, etc) download, of items in Jita 4-4, with an average/median sell price per item? I know you have an API, but for 4-5k items, I imagine a download would be less overhead for both of us?

If you don't, but would consider making something like that available, then you might also consider including the average/median buy price as well.

I really like the site design btw, and the 'new' feel.

Not at the moment.

I am currently focusing on making the server as stable as possible. Any extra processing (like calculating median price) etc. will have to wait until i'm satisfied with the overall performance.

I will have a look what i can do about the Jita 4-4 items.

Snarf

Creator of Eve Addicts
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-03-21 16:07:38 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:
Btw is there a way to see how old the shown data is?

On the main page the 'Issued at' column gives the time since the item was modified.

On the API page that data is missing because i want to keep everything as light weight as possible. Extra info means extra processing and extra bytes to transfer.

Creator of Eve Addicts
Andy DelGardo
#15 - 2012-03-21 16:19:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Andy DelGardo
Snarf Aldes wrote:
Andy DelGardo wrote:
Btw is there a way to see how old the shown data is?

On the main page the 'Issued at' column gives the time since the item was modified.

On the API page that data is missing because i want to keep everything as light weight as possible. Extra info means extra processing and extra bytes to transfer.


I meant more like how old is this data, i mean isn't "issued at" just the point where the offer was created/modified? Something like "how old is the data i'm looking at". Evemarketeer has this little red/green light which notes how old the data is.

Like a field, icon which states how old the upload data is.
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
#16 - 2012-03-21 16:48:20 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:

Btw are u running on a server, with multiple accounts for scanning? How do i "correctly" setup 2 accounts on the same machine, i noticed i get 2 different keys? Atm i just added 2x uploads in the 0.6 tool api, but i guess i may send redundant data?


Quad Core system with 16GB of RAM (I need to upgrade to a 6-core or 8-core unit next year).

As for running multiple accounts.

1) Install EVE
2) Fire up EVE shortcut, login on 1st account
3) Fire up EVE shortcut, login on 2nd account

You only need 1 upload key.

If you want the two different EVE instances to have different graphical settings, then you need to setup "junction" points and run the first EVE from directory A and the second EVE from directory B.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Multiple_clients#Method_1_-_Junctions
Andy DelGardo
#17 - 2012-03-21 16:51:56 UTC
oki, with this rig u could run like 14 clients :)

my 4GB media PC seems to handle 2 clients pretty well for scanning, so that was my idea. Since i don't think i can run eve on my windows VPN server since no d3d gpu. ( i demand a headless eve server)

For the 2 keys, i tried to use the same key for the 2 clients and noticed that only one client got updated on the Api statistic info site, so i assumed this wont work?
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-21 16:53:20 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:


I meant more like how old is this data, i mean isn't "issued at" just the point where the offer was created/modified? Something like "how old is the data i'm looking at". Evemarketeer has this little red/green light which notes how old the data is.

Like a field, icon which states how old the upload data is.

I guess i can put 'last update xx minutes ago' somewhere.

Creator of Eve Addicts
Snarf Aldes
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-21 16:57:36 UTC
Andy DelGardo wrote:
oki, with this rig u could run like 14 clients :)

my 4GB media PC seems to handle 2 clients pretty well for scanning, so that was my idea. Since i don't think i can run eve on my windows VPN server since no d3d gpu. ( i demand a headless eve server)

For the 2 keys, i tried to use the same key for the 2 clients and noticed that only one client got updated on the Api statistic info site, so i assumed this wont work?


The upload count from both clients will be added to the char name of the key you are using.

Creator of Eve Addicts
Andy DelGardo
#20 - 2012-03-22 23:23:41 UTC
I would also like the feature to display more regions at once.
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