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Issler Dainze for CSM7! Hear the bears roar!

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Tess Saisima
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#881 - 2012-03-20 21:16:26 UTC
I've got to say, this thread was one of the most entertaining things in all this election.
I'm sorry to say so, Issler, but I'm a high sec carebear miner, and yes, I really do think that Hans, or Seleene, would make better representatives for high sec miners than you (which is why I voted for them). Hell, I'm pretty sure The Mittani would fare better.
Don't be too disappointed when you don't make it to the CSM. As they say, what matters is not the destination, but the journey, and your journey was hilarious.

So, thanks you. Thanks you very much.

Tess Saisima
Forum alt
(So, probably a goon alt, I guess)
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#882 - 2012-03-20 21:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Issler Dainze wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

PLEASE CITE ONE UNBASED CLAIM!!

Again, if you have an issue to discuss please let me know what it is. But unless you can cite those unbased claims your going on about it seems we've hit an impasse.


Fair enough:

Issler Dainze:"He described Seleene as a pandering and not worthy of reelection."

and yet we have:

Hans Jagerblitzen: "I have great respect for Seleene and Trebor both, they've worked hard during their terms as CSM6 members and are both worthy of re-election. Votes for either of them would be very well-spent."

so

Grumpy Owly: "Then please cite evidence to support your claims Issler, because all evidence points to the contrary."

For which you haven't.



Did Hans not say

(as supposed to Trebor, Seleene, etc, who all pander)

In the Eve mail he sent me personally? Did you bother to read it? So I had a basis for my position. This is what he really felt at the beginning of the election. I can only take him at his word.

Now I'll stop.

Issler Daine
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate


Yes I did read it. No where in the representation of that does it actually claim they are not worthy of re-election however.

Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal.

Just like propoganda can have positive conotations of representing specific views to gain influence with certain groups or individuals.

If anything whilst some might see these as undesirable stratergies in politics they are in fact part and parcel of a campaign. It could therefore be seen as an electoral strength to have these desired skills. Though maybe Hans is simply indicating that he would like to see more principles based on the merits of ideas than just perceived popularity.

This does not however conclude that he doesn't see Trebor or Seleene as strong knowledgeable candidates on the issues who would be welcomed on the CSM as a result.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#883 - 2012-03-20 21:31:24 UTC
Tess Saisima wrote:
I've got to say, this thread was one of the most entertaining things in all this election.
I'm sorry to say so, Issler, but I'm a high sec carebear miner, and yes, I really do think that Hans, or Seleene, would make better representatives for high sec miners than you (which is why I voted for them). Hell, I'm pretty sure The Mittani would fare better.
Don't be too disappointed when you don't make it to the CSM. As they say, what matters is not the destination, but the journey, and your journey was hilarious.

So, thanks you. Thanks you very much.

Tess Saisima
Forum alt
(So, probably a goon alt, I guess)


I am glad to have provided you some entertainment. Big smile

Issler
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#884 - 2012-03-20 21:37:31 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
hans how do you respond to charges that by advocating people vote for you instead of other candidates you have viciously slandered those other candidates


I would respond by saying this "courtroom" has become a circus side-show.

What is so unfortunate is that Issler seems to be hung up on "magic words" that she feels define a person, instead of a history of their actions. This is the first thing we learn about politicians - NEVER trust their words, you have to see what they actually follow through with. Issler does not do this.

Issler's attempt to portray me as slandering Seleene or Trebor is rooted in a single *word* that she feels is more important than the entire sum of my *actions* during the campaign. It is the same reasoning that misled her into thinking that by using the words "the miner's friend" this somehow means she must be the best candidate for miners.

Ultimately, the voters will be the judge here. It doesn't matter what I did or didn't say, or whether Issler declares herself the mining candidate or not, voters will look at our respective campaigns based on the effort that went into them, and judge each of us by our character and by the choices we've made, not merely the words we've said.

TL,DR: Talk is cheap.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#885 - 2012-03-20 21:56:28 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
hans how do you respond to charges that by advocating people vote for you instead of other candidates you have viciously slandered those other candidates


I would respond by saying this "courtroom" has become a circus side-show.

What is so unfortunate is that Issler seems to be hung up on "magic words" that she feels define a person, instead of a history of their actions. This is the first thing we learn about politicians - NEVER trust their words, you have to see what they actually follow through with. Issler does not do this.

Issler's attempt to portray me as slandering Seleene or Trebor is rooted in a single *word* that she feels is more important than the entire sum of my *actions* during the campaign. It is the same reasoning that misled her into thinking that by using the words "the miner's friend" this somehow means she must be the best candidate for miners.

Ultimately, the voters will be the judge here. It doesn't matter what I did or didn't say, or whether Issler declares herself the mining candidate or not, voters will look at our respective campaigns based on the effort that went into them, and judge each of us by our character and by the choices we've made, not merely the words we've said.

TL,DR: Talk is cheap.


Yes it is, and when someone is faced with their own words and now fights so hard to deny them we see just how much they value their own words.

You say I told the world you slandered other candidates. I just shared what you said. It is for others to decide if what you said is slander. You took this negative and made it personal. I don't have anything to hide or deny.

I have no idea what you think your posts in this thread will accomplish. It won't get you votes. It won't affect the outcome for me. You will once again however leave stuff that could come back to haunt you down the road.

I have been 100% consistent for eight years in Eve and for multiple CSM elections. I don't have secrets and baggage or it would be all over this thread. So who is the honest politician here?

Hans, you said some stuff you wish you hadn't in an email and it bit you. Sorry, but everyone should assume anything put in writing gets a life of its own once its sent these days, there is a political lesson I can share with you. But don't worry, what you said won't change the outcome, your supporters don't care and in the grand scheme of things it wasn't that damming.

So Hans, good luck I have no doubt you'll be part of the CSM 7, now lets just virtual handshake and wait for the results.

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#886 - 2012-03-20 21:59:44 UTC
consistent at being terrible

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
SolusLunes
LEGITIMATE SCIENTIFIC CORPORATION
#887 - 2012-03-20 22:06:34 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
consistent at being terrible


boosh
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#888 - 2012-03-20 22:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Issler Dainze wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
hans how do you respond to charges that by advocating people vote for you instead of other candidates you have viciously slandered those other candidates


I would respond by saying this "courtroom" has become a circus side-show.

What is so unfortunate is that Issler seems to be hung up on "magic words" that she feels define a person, instead of a history of their actions. This is the first thing we learn about politicians - NEVER trust their words, you have to see what they actually follow through with. Issler does not do this.

Issler's attempt to portray me as slandering Seleene or Trebor is rooted in a single *word* that she feels is more important than the entire sum of my *actions* during the campaign. It is the same reasoning that misled her into thinking that by using the words "the miner's friend" this somehow means she must be the best candidate for miners.

Ultimately, the voters will be the judge here. It doesn't matter what I did or didn't say, or whether Issler declares herself the mining candidate or not, voters will look at our respective campaigns based on the effort that went into them, and judge each of us by our character and by the choices we've made, not merely the words we've said.

TL,DR: Talk is cheap.


Yes it is, and when someone is faced with their own words and now fights so hard to deny them we see just how much they value their own words.

You say I told the world you slandered other candidates. I just shared what you said. It is for others to decide if what you said is slander. You took this negative and made it personal. I don't have anything to hide or deny.


Why should he not feel aggreived when you were trying to engineer a view or responce:

Issler Dainze wrote:
So before the election stared I was eve mailed by Hans to ask me not to run and support him instead, He described Seleene as a pandering and not worthy of reelection.

I never brought it up because I have been trying to keep this a positive campaign


You say trying to keep things positive so obviously you must view it in a negative light, how can that not be seen as trying to elicit a responce or throwing a view that people should see your intepretation of another candidate negatively.

As such it was you who instigated this situation to elicit a desired responce if anything. And now you want to manipulate the fault or it's relevance and useage onto Hans? Roll

And as it boils down to it may just be naive and childish understanding of a single word in the English language and what it really means missrepresnted by someone who wants to project their intepretation for selfish personal ends.

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It's just criminal - Smuggling
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#889 - 2012-03-20 22:09:28 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:

Yes, you are hero to all, I support your election, Now please just go away! I did not attack you. But you are not a mining candidate. Fact, not an attack and if your ego wasn't the size of a dirigible you'd be happy being known in this election as the candidate that stands to support an important segment of Eve (even if that doesn't include high sec miners).


I don't think you even understand what "attacking a candidate" is, because you just did it again. You're being sarcastic, telling everyone I'm not a mining candidate (despite the fact that you have industrialists in your own thread supporting me) and claiming that my ego is somehow out of control.

But by all means, keep at it. I'm stuck away from home right now, I couldn't be logged in stumping for votes if I wanted to. You have an opportunity here to catch up with voters, and yet you continue to squander it by taking up precious time trying to discredit me with remarks about my mining credibility.

The things you say now, and the way you conduct yourself in the final hours here, are how you are going to be remembered should you ever choose to campaign again. You can end the foot stomping and finger pointing, and get to work convincing people to vote for you, or you can continue and forever be known as the candidate who completely unraveled at the end of their race, who can't be trusted to communicate securely or respectfully, and responds to criticism with indignant anger instead of a constructive, grounded, rebuttal.



OK, I like dirigibles but there might have a snark or two in there. P


Fundamentally however I have never said you are bad candidate, have bad ideas or wouldn't make a good member of CSM 7. That is the substance of what should matter here. That I think I better represent the high sec miners of Eve than you do is obvious, I wouldn't be running if I wasn't.

No one can do everything in Eve all the time! Why is that so hard for you to grasp and who on earth would support a candidate that makes that claim. Eve is one of the most complicated and deep games ever. The pilots of Eve deserve candidate that will focus on the areas of most interest to them. Almost all of the independent candidates running now are in part doing it because they believe that the last CSM has too narrow a focus and want to counter that by bringing similar sharp focus on the areas of the game they are most directly involved in. I don't see Alek in here trying to convince voters that even though he is the "war" candidate he also would be good for miners!

Again, own who you are and who you set out to represent. Be honest with yourself and you know that high sec miners were not who you expected to carry you to victory!

I believe a CSM populated by members that all represent specific segments of Eve is the best way for the CSM to make Eve as a whole a better place.

You are going to look back on this and see I've been the most positive and supportive of other candidates of anyone that ran for a seat in CSM 7. You won't be able to make the same claim.

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM Candidate
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#890 - 2012-03-20 22:21:24 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
hans how do you respond to charges that by advocating people vote for you instead of other candidates you have viciously slandered those other candidates


I would respond by saying this "courtroom" has become a circus side-show.

What is so unfortunate is that Issler seems to be hung up on "magic words" that she feels define a person, instead of a history of their actions. This is the first thing we learn about politicians - NEVER trust their words, you have to see what they actually follow through with. Issler does not do this.

Issler's attempt to portray me as slandering Seleene or Trebor is rooted in a single *word* that she feels is more important than the entire sum of my *actions* during the campaign. It is the same reasoning that misled her into thinking that by using the words "the miner's friend" this somehow means she must be the best candidate for miners.

Ultimately, the voters will be the judge here. It doesn't matter what I did or didn't say, or whether Issler declares herself the mining candidate or not, voters will look at our respective campaigns based on the effort that went into them, and judge each of us by our character and by the choices we've made, not merely the words we've said.

TL,DR: Talk is cheap.


Yes it is, and when someone is faced with their own words and now fights so hard to deny them we see just how much they value their own words.

You say I told the world you slandered other candidates. I just shared what you said. It is for others to decide if what you said is slander. You took this negative and made it personal. I don't have anything to hide or deny.


Why should he not feel agreived when you were trying to engineer a view or responce:

Issler Dainze wrote:
So before the election stared I was eve mailed by Hans to ask me not to run and support him instead, He described Seleene as a pandering and not worthy of reelection.

I never brought it up because I have been trying to keep this a positive campaign


You say trying to keep things positive so obviously you must view it in a negative light, how can that not be seen as trying to illicit a responce or throwing a view that people should see your intepretation of another candidate negatively.

As such it was you who instigated this situation to ellicit a desired responce if anything. And now you want to manipulate the fault or it's relevance and useage onto Hans? Roll

And as it boils down to it may just be naive and childish understanding of a single word in the English language and what it really means missrepresnted by someone who wants to project their intepretation for selfish personal ends.


I didn't say it, Hans did and however you choose it to mean is up to you. You can say what he said in public is what is his real views. Sure, or maybe is views evolved. Fine, but he needs to own it. He said it, that is a fact. And I haven't spent any time following what other candidates have said about anyone. I've been 100% focused on spreading my message and responding to voters that wanted to discuss specifics of my platform. So if Hans said something about anything other than what he conveyed to me directly I didn't see it, because I'm spending my time running my campaign, not following his. If some else hadn't brought him up I would have gone the whole campaign and never mentioned him or the eve mail he sent.

I continue to say positive things about Hans as a candidate and yet all you seem to do is commit to attacking me personally. I'm sure you voted already and it certainly was never going to be me. I appreciate your previous support but you need to see this for what is is. Hans shared some thoughts he regrets. I think it isn't as dire as he paints it but it certainly got him wrapped around the axle.

I've been told I'll regret my responses here but I think if anyone ever does come back and rereads this thread I'm going to look pretty considerate and level headed and Hans is going to look like a bit of a nutter.

He gained nothing posting here if I really am a marginalized hopeless candidate and he was a shoe in for the chair. This backwater loser candidate thread couldn't possibly matter, he could have taken the high road and ignored the whole thing.

That's my opinion anyways.

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#891 - 2012-03-20 22:33:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
All I see is a stick in the mud scrambling to not admit they fabricated a view on missguided interpretation. You still havent responded to the claims about the view to not see Seleene or Trebor re-elected.

Seeing as you have manifested the views of "pandering" in an electoral process as a view that Hans didn't want to see them re-elected. It was you who said this specifically.

Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

It does not convery anything to do with either of those candidates being re-elected or not.

This was your presented interpretation you used and not Hans words. Yet you still havent answered to this unbased claim you made. Which you did call me out on (in capitals I add, as can be seen above). At least you would do the courtesy of responding to answers and discussion you demanded.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#892 - 2012-03-20 22:45:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Issler Dainze
Grumpy Owly wrote:
All I see is a stick in the mud scrambling to not admit they fabricated a view on missguided information. You still havent responded to the claims about the view to not see Seleene or Trebor re-elected.

Seeing as you have manifested the views of "pandering" in an electoral process as a view that Hans didn't want to see them re-elected. It was you who said this specifically.

Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

It does not convery anything to do with either of those candidates being re-elected or not.

This was your presented interpretation you used and not Hans words. Yet you havent still answered to this unbased claim you made. Which you did called me out (in capitals I add as can be seen above). At least you would do the courtesy of responding to answers and discussion you demanded.


I said he saw them as pandering. What I read into his eve mail was that he didn't seem them as true high sec candidates. I certainly saw nothing to indicate in the mail he sent me he supported their reelection.

If that was meant to say support their reelection he should have made that clearer. As I said I am not following the threads of any of the candidates, I have my hands full with mine.

If this gives you some satisfaction I now believe that Hans supports the reelection of Seleene and Trebor and would be glad to hear that folks voted for them.

I stand corrected, Sorry I got that wrong, as to the other things I've said about who I represent and who Hans represents I stand by what I posted.

Issler Dainze
Now Believes Hans wanted Seleene and Trebor elected to CSM 7
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

P.S. Everyone "fabricates" their views on the information at hand. If Hans was vague in his email that isn't my fault. I expect the majority would have interpreted the way I did.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#893 - 2012-03-20 22:48:04 UTC
issler dainze can i interest you in some more of my fine rope you seem to be enjoying all the rope you're being fed

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#894 - 2012-03-20 22:50:08 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

I thought I could make some witty comment about Issler doing this herself, but unfortunately all I really know about her is that she is "the miner's friend".

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#895 - 2012-03-20 22:55:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Issler Dainze wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
All I see is a stick in the mud scrambling to not admit they fabricated a view on missguided information. You still havent responded to the claims about the view to not see Seleene or Trebor re-elected.

Seeing as you have manifested the views of "pandering" in an electoral process as a view that Hans didn't want to see them re-elected. It was you who said this specifically.

Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

It does not convery anything to do with either of those candidates being re-elected or not.

This was your presented interpretation you used and not Hans words. Yet you havent still answered to this unbased claim you made. Which you did called me out (in capitals I add as can be seen above). At least you would do the courtesy of responding to answers and discussion you demanded.


I said he saw them as pandering. What I read into his eve mail was that he didn't seem them as true high sec candidates. I certainly saw nothing to indicate in the mail he sent me he supported their reelection.

If that was meant to say support their reelection he should have made that clearer. As I said I am not following the threads of any of the candidates, I have my hands full with mine.

If this gives you some satisfaction I now believe that Hans supports the reelection of Seleene and Trebor and would be glad to hear that folks voted for them.

I stand corrected, Sorry I got that wrong, as to the other things I've said about who I represent and who Hans represents I stand by what I posted.

Issler Dainze
Now Believes Hans wanted Seleene and Trebor elected to CSM 7
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

P.S. Everyone "fabricates" their views on the information at hand. If Hans was vague in his email that isn't my fault. I expect the majority would have interpreted the way I did.


Not everyone fabricates at all. Some might seek clarity on the issue at the time or later, or seek a second opinion or simply not assume in the first place. Or perhaps postulate it as a question. You however flat out drew it in a negative light to try to derive a responce for your election purposes.

I will take your apology in that at least you recognise the error, but it really isnt me you discredited with it. How far you want to translate the apology to Hans due to the personal attack I'll leave to your discretion.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#896 - 2012-03-20 23:01:18 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

I thought I could make some witty comment about Issler doing this herself, but unfortunately all I really know about her is that she is "the miner's friend".


Of course everyone running is engaged in some variation of pandering.

So everyone seems to marginalize my slogan, "The Miner's Friend". It is a simple campaign slogan that gets right to the point. I'm having a hard time seeing a simple memorable slogan as a bad thing. Once the election is over I'll share some insight into how I decided to run my election efforts the way I have. I'll provide a hint, I love studying how RL behavior seems to lose its way once we find ourselves in the Eve 'verse. My efforts for election were serious to be sure but I also took the opportunity to see Eve vs RL first hand.

But please, keep working on the witty remarks! We could use something to bring some more humor here!

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Liked Karl's post because I hope for some future witty comments
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#897 - 2012-03-20 23:07:58 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
All I see is a stick in the mud scrambling to not admit they fabricated a view on missguided information. You still havent responded to the claims about the view to not see Seleene or Trebor re-elected.

Seeing as you have manifested the views of "pandering" in an electoral process as a view that Hans didn't want to see them re-elected. It was you who said this specifically.

Yet to re-iterate: Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. Something helpful to an election process I would imagine.

It does not convery anything to do with either of those candidates being re-elected or not.

This was your presented interpretation you used and not Hans words. Yet you havent still answered to this unbased claim you made. Which you did called me out (in capitals I add as can be seen above). At least you would do the courtesy of responding to answers and discussion you demanded.


I said he saw them as pandering. What I read into his eve mail was that he didn't seem them as true high sec candidates. I certainly saw nothing to indicate in the mail he sent me he supported their reelection.

If that was meant to say support their reelection he should have made that clearer. As I said I am not following the threads of any of the candidates, I have my hands full with mine.

If this gives you some satisfaction I now believe that Hans supports the reelection of Seleene and Trebor and would be glad to hear that folks voted for them.

I stand corrected, Sorry I got that wrong, as to the other things I've said about who I represent and who Hans represents I stand by what I posted.

Issler Dainze
Now Believes Hans wanted Seleene and Trebor elected to CSM 7
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate

P.S. Everyone "fabricates" their views on the information at hand. If Hans was vague in his email that isn't my fault. I expect the majority would have interpreted the way I did.


Not everyone fabricates at all. Some might seek clarity on the issue at the time or later, or seek a second opinion or simply not assume in the first place. Or perhaps postulate it as a question. You however flat out drew it in a negative light to try to derive a responce for your election purposes.

I will take your apology in that at least you recognise the error, but it really isnt me you discredited with it. How far you want to translate the apology to Hans due to the personal attack I'll leave to your discretion.


So I could get all philosophical but everyone's idea of reality is a fabrication of some sort. Some folks use differing data sets to make the assumptions that create the fabrication and sometime the fabrications can be shown to more closely map with "reality", which again is still some form of fabrication.

I get things wrong sometime and and anyone that knows me in RL will tell you I try to be as open minded as I can, but yes, I can make a mistake.

But at this point I'd say Hans owes me as much of an apology as I might owe him. I offered to correct this whole mess before he went all crazy in his later posts. But he dug in and would have none of it, and I'm sorry but I offered a pile of olive branches in this thread which he seemed more interested in using as kindling. I all but said vote for him. I didn't see much reciprocity.

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#898 - 2012-03-20 23:08:37 UTC
"you see, I always intended to run my election like a nutjob, i am da puppetmasta"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#899 - 2012-03-20 23:09:09 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Once the election is over I'll share some insight into how I decided to run my election efforts the way I have. I'll provide a hint, I love studying how RL behavior seems to lose its way once we find ourselves in the Eve 'verse. My efforts for election were serious to be sure but I also took the opportunity to see Eve vs RL first hand.

O hai guise I was trolling all along!

Issler Dainze wrote:
But please, keep working on the witty remarks! We could use something to bring some more humor here!

I... I don't even...

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#900 - 2012-03-20 23:12:15 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:
Issler Dainze wrote:
Once the election is over I'll share some insight into how I decided to run my election efforts the way I have. I'll provide a hint, I love studying how RL behavior seems to lose its way once we find ourselves in the Eve 'verse. My efforts for election were serious to be sure but I also took the opportunity to see Eve vs RL first hand.

O hai guise I was trolling all along!

Issler Dainze wrote:
But please, keep working on the witty remarks! We could use something to bring some more humor here!

I... I don't even...


Definitely not trolling.. but trying to use the current US presidential election as a model for my campaign.

I do want to represent the miners in Eve in the CSM 7, I am very serious about that, but I was definitely seeing how current US politics could work as campaign model. Seems to be as bad in Eve as it is in RL! Big smile

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate