EVE General Discussion

Concord has response times based on sec status of the system.

Sec / Response time *
1.0 6 seconds
0.9 7 seconds
0.8 7 seconds
0.7 8 seconds
0.6 10 seconds
0.5 13 seconds

You can add 6 seconds to the response time by drawing concord to another belt or area in the system. Usually in mining systems there are cans or wrecks. If you shoot one with a noob ship you will take a very small sec status hit (.8048% in a .5). If you cant find a can you can have a "neutral alt" drop one. Or you can just shoot at a buddy. Make sure you don't do it on a gate or station as the guns can pop you before concord gets there. Once Concord arrives at the false alarm, you will have an additional 6 seconds to do your dirty work. Or, if you are a bad guy miner, you will have up to 19 seconds to defend yourself.

I prefer the catalyst to the thrasher, both are great. The idea is to find your rate of fire. Volley/dps = ROF.

[Catalyst, Gank Catalyst]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer I

Warp Scrambler I
Sensor Booster I

Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I
Light Ion Blaster I

Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

335 DPS/599 volley overheated
1.8 sec ROF

Cheap and effeective. Some people prefer T2 weapons and stabs, you can get 700 dps if you prefer to solo. You should always overheat. Any dessie besides the cormorant is a good choice.
Here is the magik formula;

(Concord reponse time/ROF) x volley damage = total damage

For example in a .5 system:
((13+6)/1.8) x 599 = 5990 total damage. Add 3 seconds for each ganker after the first for concord to switch targets.

Here is a tanked mackinaw from battleclinic.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/39495-Mackinaw-Cargo-and-EHP-CHEAP.html
13128 EHP
57 HP/s tank
12899.3 m3 cargo

245/247.5 CPU
43.8/43.8 Powergrid
68% capacitor stability
Approximate price of Modules? 26 mil.**

Look at that sexy thermal hole. :wink

This will be easily taken down by 2 t1 fitted catalysts with some hobgoblin I's.

How do I find out their tank?

I use a cloaky alt. You can get them coming in and out of the station without them ever knowing you scanned them. You don't have to be cloaky, but thats how I prefer to find my warp in point. The only requirement is a ship scanner, but a passive targeter and ship scanner are very inconspicuous. You can run their fits through EFT once you know what they have equiped, and you can probaly just look and find the hole.

The basic idea is that you You call concord to another location . Get a warp in point bookmarked, or a cloaked alt. Or an uncloaked alt in an industry or mining ship. If you can, make your rally point for the dessies off of dscan of the blet. When you mark the target zoom out and pick a rally point that does not have asteroids in the path. When you are ready to kill warp in. Cloakies will decloak at 2k, so have your velocity tab open to make sure they are not spooling before you start the warp to. if your dessies are pre aligned they shouldnt have enough time to get away when you decloak on them. If you are not solo you should be on comms and call the spike. Everybody presses enter to the concord warning at the same time.

Protip: Ratting vanguard incursion belts in a triangle increases sec status quickly without having to mess with low/null.

* CoUrtesy of Goonwiki
** Tears as they drop: Priceless

cipher jones, alone and unloved after his campaign against the evil goonies, resorts to stealing their techniques to become loved

I have no campaign against the goons.Just bad poasterz. I have never even seen one in space. You mistake my stance on truly harassing people for a hatred of ganking. Ganking the same person over and over for nothing but "lulz" is something I do not endorse.

I remember you, you are the verbal bj guy. When you report back to your masters be sure to report my thanks. Thanks.

Oh, I also stole some of my techniques from Silent Alliance. Those guys were the nicest "pirates" I ever met.

I prefer this fit:

[Catalyst, Solo Gank]
7x Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
1x Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler
3x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
1x Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit
1x Hobgoblin II

A bit expensive but it can solo any Hulk in 0.6 and down that doesn't have a damage control fit (which is most of them), you get half the modules back, and with the hulk loot (and especially the T2 armor plates) come out a bit ahead in ISK in the long run.

Had the advantage that an Orca alt can carry like 30 of them (5 assembled in the maint. bay, rest in the holds). Miners never watch their d-scanners for the ship rather obviously named "Suicide Cat" and it's hardly worth anyone's time to probe out a catalyst in a crowded highsec system, so I have my Orca alt kick one out in a safespot near the belt and I sit next to it in my pod, alt docks up, gets a covops out of the ship maint. bay and gets a warp-in on the target. Board, warp, pewpew, scoop & salvage on my alt while I warp my pod out.

Haven't done it in a few weeks now though, trained up a 2nd cyno alt so I don't have to spend a day in empire twiddling my thumbs whenever I need to run my alt's Anshar to Jita and back.

EDIT:
A possibly relevant loltastic wormhole I found a couple of years ago...

what do you gank the gankers with then?

Destroyers.

Cipher Jones: Brave enough to steal from our wiki but not actually brave enough to gank miners himself.

Epic

you'll be claiming your dirty little guild has a monopoly on immorality next no doubt ..

Would the Mittani approve of ganking tactics becoming part of the generally held knowledge of highseccers?

Didn't people already know about catalyst ganks and prespawning Concord?