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Botting=14 days temp ban; Kill a freighter=DEATH!
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Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-03-20 16:37:47 UTC
"It has come to our attention that some players are making use of a broken game mechanic involving web modules preventing people from warping, for the purpose of killing them. This is a clear exploit and anyone found abusing this will be dealt with accordingly. Exploiting may result in a permanent suspension from the game. Our Game Design team will be working to deploy a fix for this issue in the near future."- http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4944

So apparently now if you kill someone by using this exploit theres a good chance you will get banned forever...
If you bot you get banned for 14 day and become unable to trade the character...

Now it might just be me, but I think botting should be punished just as "harshly" as exploiting... what do you guys think?

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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-03-20 16:41:32 UTC
Many people that deserve to be banned only get suspended for 14 days and many people that deserver to be suspended for 14 days get banned permanently =/
Delta Jax
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-03-20 16:41:55 UTC
:deathtoallfreighters:

Twitter :  @DeltaJax
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#4 - 2012-03-20 16:42:54 UTC
Botting should be instant perma-ban imo. As for broken code, we have to deal with CCP's negative broken game mechanics everyday so if an advantages one comes around every so often, then jump on the bandwagon I say.

Damn nature, you scary!
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-03-20 16:43:16 UTC
Too many people in positions of power use botting, so why would CCP seriously go after that? It's easier to incarcerate those smoking a joint than those raping and murdering...
seany1212
M Y S T
#6 - 2012-03-20 16:48:21 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
"It has come to our attention that some players are making use of a broken game mechanic involving web modules preventing people from warping, for the purpose of killing them. This is a clear exploit and anyone found abusing this will be dealt with accordingly. Exploiting may result in a permanent suspension from the game. Our Game Design team will be working to deploy a fix for this issue in the near future."- http://community.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4944

So apparently now if you kill someone by using this exploit theres a good chance you will get banned forever...
If you bot you get banned for 14 day and become unable to trade the character...

Now it might just be me, but I think botting should be punished just as "harshly" as exploiting... what do you guys think?


Borun Tal wrote:
Too many people in positions of power use botting, so why would CCP seriously go after that? It's easier to incarcerate those smoking a joint than those raping and murdering...


THE GAME Roll
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
Disaster Strikes
#7 - 2012-03-20 16:49:38 UTC
Oh, would CCP kindly ban every single faction police in this case. On a bad sec status toon of mine I have frequently undocked and clicked warp in hisec, only to be webbed by the faction police, rendering me in a near-permanent state of entering warp, unable to re-dock, move, cancel warp or actually warp for 30-40 seconds. All the time taking significant damage, luckily only ships such as the maelstrom/hyperion have been slow enough to catch, so have tanked them. Had other people report this too.

Damn nature, you scary!
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#8 - 2012-03-20 17:19:23 UTC
I'm pretty sure the 14 day, 30 day, permaban progression thing applies to this as well as botting.

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-03-20 17:34:00 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
I'm pretty sure the 14 day, 30 day, permaban progression thing applies to this as well as botting.


I'm pritty sure that wasn't specified :) my main point really was that botting needs to be perma ban

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-03-20 17:40:24 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
Many people that deserve to be banned only get suspended for 14 days and many people that deserver to be suspended for 14 days get banned permanently =/


It's like real life court systems...
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#11 - 2012-03-20 18:13:37 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
Kiandoshia wrote:
Many people that deserve to be banned only get suspended for 14 days and many people that deserver to be suspended for 14 days get banned permanently =/


It's like real life court systems...

EVE is REAL

But yea

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Avid Bumhumper
Beekeepers Anonymous
#12 - 2012-03-20 18:37:14 UTC
Came looking for pirate tears, left satisfied.... Cool


My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale.....
Bubanni
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-03-20 18:52:33 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Came looking for pirate tears, left satisfied.... Cool




Heh, personly I have never tried using this exploit, my only regret is not trying to before it became a "exploit"
No... this is a anti botting thread disquised as a "rage over newly declared exploit"

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Stellar Vix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-03-20 18:58:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Stellar Vix
Came looking for tears.

Left Thirsty.

Anyways temp banning a bot player usually makes them into an 'honest' player, rare few times have those boots gotten the third strike.

-Vix

SWA Instructor, Commander Select Currently being blamed as SWA's CEO SWA PVP Program
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#15 - 2012-03-20 19:06:06 UTC
The core difference: one of them is easily provable (using a module in a specific way), the other isn't (running a third-party program to automate actions).
Valentyn3
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#16 - 2012-03-20 19:07:30 UTC
Exploits, if bad enough, can **** up a server so bad it needs to be rolled back. I've yet to see bots do this kind of harm in such a short time. Never mind the fact that sometimes people get their accounts hijacked. It would suck if, in the process of getting it back, it gets perma'ed because it got caught running a bot.

I don't always use hax. But when I do, it's because I'm an NPC.. http://i.imgur.com/PUZou.jpg
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#17 - 2012-03-20 19:10:30 UTC
Temp banning isnt the only punishment botters get, they also get their characters locked so they cant sell the toon.

Every crime doesn't deserve the same punishment.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#18 - 2012-03-20 19:12:31 UTC
BRB CCP ,GOING TO GO TURN MY BOT ON LOLLLOLLOLLOLOLOOLLO

I have more space likes than you. 
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-03-20 19:17:21 UTC
mxzf wrote:
The core difference: one of them is easily provable (using a module in a specific way), the other isn't (running a third-party program to automate actions).



Exactly. When people run anoms in null, we usually get a system going (possibly with alts, whatever) and do the exact same thing over and over. For all intents and purposes, we look identical to bots. Except if you wave to us most of us will wave back. And we smack local when gangs roll through.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-03-20 19:30:23 UTC
Wow PL and friends are having a rough couple of weeks. First they find out they're not going to be able to exploit with their Titans for much longer and now they find out they can't exploit to kill JFs.

It's not easy being ~elite PvP~

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
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