EVE General Discussion

TL:DR-rant, don't bother...

Ok I get it...the rules of engagement concerning flagging, CONCORD, sentries, jetcans, high-sec, low-sec: all extremely confusion for newbies and stupid players. Even bittervets are sometimes still confused about the specifics.

So I understand that CCP want's to protect the new players blundering around empire trying to shoot stations. And when you get a pop-up in your face with a 'do-not-show-again' check on the bottom, nobody reads it and smacks Enter. All very Darwinian and EVE-like in my opinion.

But CCP's hormones kicked in lately and now they transformed into this mother-hen smothering her chicks with motherly advice and tutorials, never realizing what a bloody menace it can be if they bury us with pop-ups, sneakily changing them to prevent mindless skipping.

There are probably not many people sympathizing with suicide-gankers or gate-campers missing they quarry while having to click through the notice. But yesterday my Incursion fleet was killing the Sansha Mothership in low-sec Notoras, when some neutral snuck into the site. Maybe he was just peeking, maybe he was going to try and ninja the mothership's loot. The (excellent) FC had outstanding orders only to lock-up neutrals, unless provoked, but someone shot him anyway (the pilot claims lag, his drones engaging or whatever).

Mind you this was not some ill-organised random fleet group flailing away in fail-fitted drakes at some high-sec Vanguard. We we're popping a low-sec mom on the doorstep of Tama! Yeah baby! And the whole point of low-sec is being able to defend your **** without CONCORD sticking their nose in your business, right? Well if you count out EVE's bloody pop-ups. Those nearly fail-cascaded into the fleet actually losing their ****.

Because when that pilot shot the neutral, one of the Basilisks must still have had a shield transfer on him and he then immediately got the 'aiding-agression' warning. And because of the cap-chain, suddenly all the other Basilisks were having to click through a whole ******* stack of them as well. And these then spread onto the Scimitars as well when they started to rep the Basilisks that were getting shot. So in short: one pilots shoots a potential ninja-looter or scout and suddenly all the logistics in the fleet are desperately clicking through a whole bunch of bloody pop-ups blocking the screen and all actions

When we entered 0.4, I got the warning there and I actually thought of checking the menu to see if I could turn them all off, but apparently this is STILL not possible.

I think it speaks to the skill and discipline of my fellow logi-pilots (I freaked out, miss-clicked and managed to clear my b/c history ) that we managed keep our losses in the following chaos minimal with only two destroyed Basilisks. And thanking to the fact that were pretty heavy on logistics in the first place we didn't lose anything Shiny™ (though some came close). If this would have happened after a bomber-run, or we were hit by an MOM-ECM on top of it, we would have lost a LOT more, and then this post would have been a much longer rant.

As an added bonus, all logistic pilots now also had a GCC-flag, stuck on 15 minutes until we finally popped the mom (sadly only a Phantasm bpc, Heavy Nos and some hardener). After that all us 'WoW-priests', had to wait out our GCC-flags docked in a station, with the FC and some other pilots chaperoning us back into empire

PS: I have no confirmation, but I heard that the neutral 'trespasser' was a Goon, living up it's well-deserved reputation to cause mayhem. If proven true, I sayeth: "Well played, my good sir, I tip my hat to thee."

PPS: That whole field-trip, popping a low-sec mom, took well over two hours to finish, having already saved time by merging two pre-existing HQ-fleets into a MOM-fleet. So that boils down to a mere 45M ISK/hour while taking a LOT of risk and cooperation. Whatever is causing the talked-to-death inflation, it's surely isn't low-sec HQ Incursions.

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TL:DR : Come on CCP! There is a VERY good reason why we want to be able to simply shut off those aggression warnings! Those 'you-can't-click-anything-but-me' pop-ups tend to come at the worst possible times!

Fine! Be like an overbearing mommy and and drown the newbies with your stern advice or every time somebody reinstalls, clears their cache or whatever. But at LEAST allow me to shut the bloody things down with a meditated decision from the esc-menu.

I've played this game for over eight years, mother! I'll admit I still occasionally do stupid things. but if I want to drink beer and and shoot stargates, it's my own decision! And I don't need you yapping in my ear for every... single... thing!

Yes. +1 for my suicide alt.

High-sec Mandatory pop-ups ruin my ganking sprees, especially now that they default to 'No' instead of 'Yes'.

Remove the redundancies (ie, Being asked Are you SURE you want a GCC? when you are already under GCC!) or give them a checkbox like in lowsec....

Thanks.

For that reason a following "[_] Do not ask me again." should be enough. Those, wo still want being warned because of nervous fingers, avoid to activate it. All others, who activate it, say "i know, and don't remind me again - i choose to take the risk from now on on my own responsibility".



hm .. that *could* be due to legal reasons. Who knows ...

Remember Audrey Brittany and her WII Controller? There was a very good reason for this external link warning thing.....

Just to warn you, I think that is hilarious.


But, I agree. Most of those warnings shouldn't matter, you are in lowsec, you should expect such things. CCP should make them much less annoying and less intrusive when in low.

Pretty much.

The larger nuisance was the continuous spam of new threads and posts, though — a new one every minute or so, clogging up the forums something fierce (but then, I would say that, since that was the only way it affected me… )

-1 for useless rant, +1 for good idea.

... eh, screw it, +1 for actually being literate and using real English.


Verdict: +1!

+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1

There's a warning for everything except where I might actually want to see one - when I'm about to failjump into highsec.