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MollyPuss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-09-24 00:14:13 UTC
O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy),

CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be.

Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth.

Cheers Big smile
Nyio
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-09-24 00:17:16 UTC
Hilmar? Is that you? Smile

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mkint
#3 - 2011-09-24 00:18:18 UTC
2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
MollyPuss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-09-24 00:26:10 UTC
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Hilmar? Is that you? Smile
lol no wouldn't mind his cash though! Mkint bash away.......... was just my personal view Big smile
The Apostle
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-09-24 00:28:21 UTC
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2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.


Some people are negative regardless of what is said OR done. Mate, I haven't blocked anyone yet. Can someone tell me where the button is so I can test it?

+1 to OP and total agreeance. It's time...

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#6 - 2011-09-24 00:29:12 UTC  |  Edited by: non judgement
I would say inb4 negative posts. But I'm too late.

It's nice to see a veteran who still has this mindset. Just goes to show that not all of the vterans are bitter...
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-09-24 00:30:49 UTC
I for one am sick and tired of the CCP bashing. I am also starting to feel that the CSM is a worthless waste of time and should be abolished.

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Swooshie
USA Canada Private Corp
#8 - 2011-09-24 00:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Swooshie
This "I want actions, not words" antic is getting silly. When you get a corporation to admit a refocus publicly, you know something will happen. Lay down the weapons and take a breather already boys!

We all got the point, we know you, mighty forums warriors, will run to the front again if nothing comes out of it. Your might and virility has been established.

Chill down. Wait.

"It is when I think about meaning that I lose what I meant to say."     -Swooshie
Di Mulle
#9 - 2011-09-24 01:30:29 UTC
MollyPuss wrote:
O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy),

CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be.

Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth.

Cheers Big smile



You know, I would like to to support you, being kind hearted and all that.

Just, I am afraid that certain idea is firmly planted into community. The idea that nothing goes without extreme bashing, and barely goes even with it (we are yet to see literally anything after all). And you know who put the biggest effort into that.

I am really confused and uncertain, honest.
<<Insert some waste of screen space here>>
Gregor Palter
#10 - 2011-09-24 03:00:24 UTC
The bashing will continue until morale is improved.

Excuses are the refuge of the weak.

Foodpimp
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-09-24 03:03:32 UTC
I believe that CCP bashing is a catharsis and vital to maintaining an even keel, Lest I suddenly go apesh** and go full on retarb.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-09-24 03:32:23 UTC
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The bashing will continue until morale is improved.

I'd prefer you name one instance in history where repeated negativity has boosted morale?

A good FC outgunned and outnumbered will laugh and say it's a good day to die as he calls primary and locks.

A bad FC outgunned and outnumbered will explain that he won't risk ships because of lag, gate antics, station docking, cost, lack of ships, bad overview ad nauseum as he warps away.

I know who I'd fight for. You?

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BLACK-STAR
#13 - 2011-09-24 04:07:09 UTC
Playerbase will always criticize CCP, and we need to so they're aware of what is wrong, and their bad directions.


Now CCP has wronged us over shittons of things, the most recent obvious one is the hangar deletion (5+ months), and hampering many other functions of the game. CCP makes obnoxious articles to the public/media that everyone is all happy and everything is just fine!~ -and pilots couldn't be happier. ....hmmm yeah right. Haven't forgotten any of this at all.


People must be really naive to cave into soft words or suffer amnesia of CCPs behavior. Especially after the playerbase thwarted CCP's leaked internals, CEO/Zulu's dear fuckyouall dev post, failed promises, and other multitudes of bullshit some people forgotten I guess.


I don't think CCP plans ceasefires and will continue to r.ape and pillage the playerbase a little more for as long as they can hold out for. It's either they return developing core content/values of this game or shoot everyone in the back of the head, pretty much.

Have a nice day Zulu.~
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
#14 - 2011-09-24 04:09:36 UTC
Nyio wrote:
Hilmar? Is that you? Smile


Hilmar would never admit there is any uproar among players to begin with. In his world he is Jesus, everyone loves him and his game, and he's never taken a bad decision. Oh and you can't oppose him, obviously then you're delusional and/or a freak and need to be disregarded, ignored, or processed into fish-food.

AFK-cloaking in a system near you.
Yasumoto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-09-24 05:04:04 UTC
As a subscriber to the EVE service I will never cut CCP slack.

Allowing CCP to continue down the road of '**** the customer; we know better than them' is tatamount to giving your local HIV Positive pedophile the key to your virgin daughter's bedroom and going out to dinner. You hope that something terrible won't happen, but deep down you know that the bum can't help but indulge himself.

CCP has been binging on the sweet cash from subscriptions and investors alike over the past several years and now we have a bloated and directionless company that exhibits many of the problems typical of a rapidly grown business with weak oversight.

Holding CCP accountable for their actions and words is the only way to keep them straight and possibly on the path towards re-focusing on what makes EVE a great service that continues to grow its subscriber base.
The Apostle
Doomheim
#16 - 2011-09-24 05:07:56 UTC
Quote:
Allowing CCP to continue down the road of '**** the customer; we know better than them' is tatamount to giving your local HIV Positive pedophile the key to your virgin daughter's bedroom and going out to dinner. You hope that something terrible won't happen, but deep down you know that the bum can't help but indulge himself.

CCP has been binging on the sweet cash from subscriptions and investors alike over the past several years and now we have a bloated and directionless company that exhibits many of the problems typical of a rapidly grown business with weak oversight.

Holding CCP accountable for their actions and words is the only way to keep them straight and possibly on the path towards re-focusing on what makes EVE a great service that continues to grow its subscriber base.


This is a thoughtful and insightful post.

Please post again next time you feel thoughtful and insightful.

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Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#17 - 2011-09-24 05:11:59 UTC
There's a difference between constructive criticism and comparing people with HIV positive peadophiles. Quite a big one.

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Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#18 - 2011-09-24 06:54:40 UTC
mkint wrote:
2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.


oy! oyyy, OOOY!!!
I loved Incursion expansion to be frank...
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-09-24 06:58:00 UTC
MollyPuss wrote:
O.k you guys just wanted to say thanks to my fellow eve players that have made so many brilliant points on the forums and interwebs, I've really enjoyed reading posts that have put arguments forward with so much thought and effort to improve our beloved game, most of those made in much more concise, intelligent and detailed way than I ever could (or maybe i'm just lazy),

CCP has taken a kicking from the player base, I think there has been enough analysis done into how, where and why we are mildly annoyed to out right enraged with certain area's of game play or the lack of etc etc . Personally I'm going to cut CCP a little slack now, Hope you CCP guys pull the rabbit out of the hat. Group hug! I think all of us everyone! just want this game to be amazing and that unites us all. I've got 7 years invested myself. I've stayed that long because i'\ve always had hope in what eve could be.

Just, a not normally very vocal player putting in my 2 penneth.

Cheers Big smile



why the CCP bashing? well some people just want an expansion with some quality.


do tell when was the last time since that happened.

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mkint
#20 - 2011-09-24 07:00:05 UTC
Ammzi wrote:
mkint wrote:
2 1/2 years since the last GOOD expansion? 2 1/2 years of CCP stupidity without so much as admitting they might be doing something stupid? I think we deserve 2 1/2 more years of apologies, 2 1/2 years of fixing the stupidity that was created in that time. That we've earned 2 1/2 years of bashing. So, no, I won't stop because of yet more *words*.


oy! oyyy, OOOY!!!
I loved Incursion expansion to be frank...

Incursion expansion had some good features, yeah. The problem is separating features from the expansion name... incursions as a feature was good, but incursions as an expansion had the anom nerf that has finished off nullsec as being even remotely livable. And coincidentally, played right into the hands of certain RMTing members of the CSM...

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
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