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Disaster at Matriculation Centre #4
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Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-03-20 01:19:21 UTC
Kikia Truzhari wrote:
Oh that's right, you're the crazy cultists who murder everyone, not the crazy cultists who capture and enslave people. Sorry, my mistake. That's so much less despicable. Lets all hold hands and be friends.


CONVERT or kill. Because yeah. Slavery and spiritual bankruptcy is so much better than a clean, righteous death.
Ta Pang
Character Warehouse
#22 - 2012-03-20 01:48:07 UTC
What is the life of a slave worth? Are they worth more because of the abuse that they are subjected to, or less because many take them for granted and treat them as cattle? How do I respond when an individual comes forward, feeling guilty about the part they have played in a massacre and begs for forgiveness and offers to pay reparations for the people whose life he has helped ruin.

Again.

Do I publish the name of the individual and the details he has provided outlining how they acted as a scout and spy, tracking down DSTON members and our matriculation centres? What if the information leads to a larger conflict? What is to be gained by implicating a major capsuleer alliance in the assault on unsuspecting innocents as they slept? What proof is there? How do we proceed to prevent any further loss of life and yet not seem that the lives lost are not mourned or atonement by the guilty sought?
It is questions like these that have plagued my mind today. As I walked past aisle upon aisle of corpses covered in sheets in the make-shift morgue, my mind wanders through all of the possibilities and options before me. Times like these make me question pacifism.

I speant most of my day wandering through the remnants of matriculation centre #4, seeing first-hand the destruction wrought by people who hate us simply for helping others. Station authorities are ramping up the investigation and I am expected to attend an update in several hours. Until then I will continue to wander because to fall asleep will lead me to dream of all those who have been taken. Sleep is no longer a friend.
Boma Airaken
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-03-20 01:56:51 UTC
Ta Pang wrote:
What is the life of a slave worth? Are they worth more because of the abuse that they are subjected to, or less because many take them for granted and treat them as cattle? How do I respond when an individual comes forward, feeling guilty about the part they have played in a massacre and begs for forgiveness and offers to pay reparations for the people whose life he has helped ruin.

Again.

Do I publish the name of the individual and the details he has provided outlining how they acted as a scout and spy, tracking down DSTON members and our matriculation centres? What if the information leads to a larger conflict? What is to be gained by implicating a major capsuleer alliance in the assault on unsuspecting innocents as they slept? What proof is there? How do we proceed to prevent any further loss of life and yet not seem that the lives lost are not mourned or atonement by the guilty sought?
It is questions like these that have plagued my mind today. As I walked past aisle upon aisle of corpses covered in sheets in the make-shift morgue, my mind wanders through all of the possibilities and options before me. Times like these make me question pacifism.

I speant most of my day wandering through the remnants of matriculation centre #4, seeing first-hand the destruction wrought by people who hate us simply for helping others. Station authorities are ramping up the investigation and I am expected to attend an update in several hours. Until then I will continue to wander because to fall asleep will lead me to dream of all those who have been taken. Sleep is no longer a friend.


You keep doing what you have been doing. Altruistic works, stationside, while your activity on the spacelanes has been utterly shut down.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#24 - 2012-03-20 04:24:58 UTC
Koronakesh wrote:
Norrin Ellis wrote:
Kikia Truzhari wrote:
The desire to go and find Boma, Koronakesh, and the other seekers, and just hunt them down and murder them in a way that not even cloning will fix, is steadily rising.


I like to think I know Koronakesh fairly well, and I'd wager that he'd welcome such a challenge. In fact, he might consider it some sort of fun new game.

Their impotence has long-since been noted and dismissed. I rather doubt the possibility there's been a change in the interceding months.


On the subject of this thread though, no, this was not an operation of mine personally, nor one I was aware was being conducted. Ta Pang's own numbers would indicate thus with such a low execution percentage of the total center population.


Oh, silly boy.

Werent you the ones that refused to come to scary lowsec to get us? Have to leave docking radius for that, we understand.

For the record, I kind of doubt that Seekers had much, if anything, to do with the actual "attack" described here. Dosent seem their style, and frankly... somethin' stinks, if you follow me.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Norrin Ellis
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-03-20 05:27:45 UTC
Ava Starfire wrote:


Oh, silly boy.

Werent you the ones that refused to come to scary lowsec to get us? Have to leave docking radius for that, we understand.


You seem to be practically gloating over battles not fought. Empty posturing is terribly unbecoming.

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-03-20 05:39:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
*redacted*

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Ta Pang
Character Warehouse
#27 - 2012-03-20 13:30:31 UTC
Ta Pang appears before a simple podium, a glass of water and datapad sitting on it for his use. The bags under his bloodshot eyes a clear indication of the toll that the stress of the past several days has exacted on him. He pauses for a moment to collect his thoughts and adjust his data pad on the podium before beginning to speak.

“Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming to this press conference; I am Ta Pang of the Disciples of Ston, and the founder of Matriculation centre 4 here aboard the Republic Security Service station in Madirmilire. I will be providing you an update into the ongoing response and investigation into the recent attack on the centre. I will not be taking any questions today.”

He pauses, taking a tiny sip of water before continuing. The gravity of the situation clearly weighing on him.

“As previously reported, 16,534 formed slaves were captured during the raid, 372 people were killed, most executed in cold blood while they slept. The common factor among the dead seems to have been that they were deemed useless for service where ever they were to be taken, either because of age or infirmity. Details of the raid have also been previously released and I won’t revisit the specifics of the assault.

Republic Security Service personnel have spent that past 36 hours going over every flight plan in and out of the station, as well as collecting witness statements from several maintenance crews who were working in the vicinity of the matriculation centre prior to the attack.

We can now say with confidence that the group who undertook this raid arrived on a Providence class freighter. Several witness statements from station docking personnel identified 5 combat dropships being unloaded and quickly assembled shortly after 0200h from the freighter in question. The freighter was conveniently docked in a berth immediately opposite the wall separating the docking corridor form the matriculation centre. Upon checking the flight plan for that particular berth, the freighter arrived 2 days previous reportedly hauling humanitarian relief supplies. The ships name, registration number and pilot had been erased from the flight plan, either directly or through an implanted virus. Clearly they did not want a record of the ship to exist.

With the discovery of this freighter, our focus has turned to trying to track it down. To no one’s surprise, the freighter left within 45 minutes after the explosions, despite being advised against it by station traffic control. Apparently they were concerned with being damaged by further explosions given their proximity to the affected area and insisted that they be allowed to depart.

I would request that anyone with knowledge of this freighter contact me directly.

As for rescue operations, I am afraid that they have now turned into more of a recovery operation. As has been previously reported the relatively small number of residents that were not taken appear to all have been executed. With that said, we have found several murdered security personnel, also shot once in the head each. Camera and drone coverage was disrupted by the explosions and power blackout; however we are hopeful that some of the personal recorders worn by the security personnel as well as personal equipment of some of the residents may give us further insight into who may have perpetrated this unthinkable crime.

Thank you for your time."

Ta Pang practicaly slumps over with the exhaustion of delivering such horrible information in such an impersonal way. An aide comes to him and seems to have to lead him away from the podium and away from the eyes of the media.
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#28 - 2012-03-20 13:38:52 UTC
There was NO ATTACK ON CENTER #4. Ta Pang is a spy for Ran'shad

Suspicion... What station has more internal and external security than an RSS station in Amarr space? None. Power loss? Drops ships flying through hull breaches? Come on, doesn't that sound a little incredulous? There was a bad taste in my mouth from the beginning of this report. Then, yesterday we began the evacuation of all our Centers in Madirmilire and the ugly truth began to take shape.

What was unknown even to me, was that when Edaine Numenor left DSTON to form the new Corp NUVOS he left a small staff at the RSS station in Madirmilire because he would continue to do rescue ops when he passed through that area, much like Gaufres does. The staff consisted of a secretary and 10 Marines for security as well as a medical team. In addition, there were 84 former slaves. Yesterday when we evacuated all of our Centers from the system, we went to pick up Edaine's remaining staff and residents at the RSS station fearing the worst. When we arrived we saw no damage to the station inside or out. We asked Edaine's security staff, "Was anyone hurt in the attack?" "What attack?" they replied. "The attack on Center #4" we said. "Center #4 wasn't attacked, but the residents we transported out."

We were floored. I asked for help from people I trust and it didn't take long for evidence to be found that our own Ta Pang is a stool pigeon working for the villain Ran'shad. Kentt Em'asep uncovered what we should have uncovered before we accepted Ta Pang as a member of our corp; that he and Ran'shad are friends and former corp mates. That in itself is not damning, but when Ran'shad started opposing us, Ta Pang pretended not to know him.

Is our evidence conclusive, no. But it is enough to show that Ta Pang was dishonest with us from the start and that the residents were simply transported off the station. There was no attack.

SANKOFA
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-03-20 13:54:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
*redacted*

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-03-20 14:12:32 UTC
I was wondering when the Disciples were going to try to drag me into this debacle.

At what point did I become a villain??? It’s true that I have spoken out against the legality and nature of the Disciples of Ston’s activities; however for Manwe to so publically state that I would EVER be involved in the execution of innocents is absolutely repugnant. Where is the evidence? What proof has he produced? He says that his man once belonged to a corporation I was in....I suppose that is possible. I wouldn’t know...he has never worked for me that I can recall.

But that is not proof.

Manwe Todako, you need to produce evidence before making such baseless claims. Or perhaps you should climb back on your high horse and buy more X-Instinct from the Cartel.

High Lord Ran'Shad CEO Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment Elemental Tide Alliance
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#31 - 2012-03-20 14:16:45 UTC
Ran'shad wrote:
I was wondering when the Disciples were going to try to drag me into this debacle.

At what point did I become a villain??? It’s true that I have spoken out against the legality and nature of the Disciples of Ston’s activities; however for Manwe to so publically state that I would EVER be involved in the execution of innocents is absolutely repugnant. Where is the evidence? What proof has he produced? He says that his man once belonged to a corporation I was in....I suppose that is possible. I wouldn’t know...he has never worked for me that I can recall.

But that is not proof.

Manwe Todako, you need to produce evidence before making such baseless claims. Or perhaps you should climb back on your high horse and buy more X-Instinct from the Cartel.


I'm not exactly sure what he's claiming here. Some clarification would be nice.

Did Ta Pang essentially just try to muster up false sympathy? Did he steal people and made up the story of the attack to cover his tracks long enough to get away?

I would like a clear, concise timeline of events.
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#32 - 2012-03-20 14:25:29 UTC
Ran'shad wrote:
I was wondering when the Disciples were going to try to drag me into this debacle.

At what point did I become a villain??? It’s true that I have spoken out against the legality and nature of the Disciples of Ston’s activities; however for Manwe to so publically state that I would EVER be involved in the execution of innocents is absolutely repugnant. Where is the evidence? What proof has he produced? He says that his man once belonged to a corporation I was in....I suppose that is possible. I wouldn’t know...he has never worked for me that I can recall.

But that is not proof.

Manwe Todako, you need to produce evidence before making such baseless claims. Or perhaps you should climb back on your high horse and buy more X-Instinct from the Cartel.


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Ta Pang Posted - 2011.04.27 14:13:00 - [1]

The Off World Brotherhood [OWB] corp is back and open to new members.

Who we are:
Small sized corp focused on mining and industry. Open to all comers and welcome inquiries from anyone.


Why Join OWB?
((We are a relaxed / casual corps taht focuses on fun. Although primarily a mining corps, we are open to PvP, mission runners, PvE, and low-sec expansion.))

For More info message Ta Pang or Ran'Shad

Let's Ranshad, what did you just say? Oh yes "He says that his man once belonged to a corporation I was in....I suppose that is possible. I wouldn’t know...he has never worked for me that I can recall." You are a liar a putrid slaver and Ta Pang is your pigeon stool.

SANKOFA
Kikia Truzhari
Teraa Matar
#33 - 2012-03-20 14:27:49 UTC
I'm with Tiberious-bot. I'm just terribly confused by all of this.
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#34 - 2012-03-20 14:40:41 UTC
We hope you didn't kill anybody and we actually think you didn't. There was absolutely no evidence of any force used at all at the RSS station. Ta Pang sang a good story knowing that RSS has no interest in commenting on capsuleer matters. Ta Pang was trusted by the residents there. You simply removed them you stinking lying slaver! Anybody can look this up in your public Concord record Ran'shad.


Ta Pang
Off World Brotherhood (Closed) 2011.04.26 00:41 to 2011.05.01 13:35

Ran’shad
Off World Brotherhood (Closed) 2009.05.22 20:14 to 2011.05.02 18:39

I am beginning removal proceedings on Ta Pang immediately.

SANKOFA
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#35 - 2012-03-20 14:45:17 UTC
Manwe Todako wrote:
We hope you didn't kill anybody and we actually think you didn't. There was absolutely no evidence of any force used at all at the RSS station. Ta Pang sang a good story knowing that RSS has no interest in commenting on capsuleer matters. Ta Pang was trusted by the residents there. You simply removed them you stinking lying slaver! Anybody can look this up in your public Concord record Ran'shad.


Ta Pang
Off World Brotherhood (Closed) 2011.04.26 00:41 to 2011.05.01 13:35

Ran’shad
Off World Brotherhood (Closed) 2009.05.22 20:14 to 2011.05.02 18:39

I am beginning removal proceedings on Ta Pang immediately.


So, to confirm. Ta Pang stole some people, but did not execute anyone.
Ta Pang
Character Warehouse
#36 - 2012-03-20 14:59:05 UTC
Did you visit the centre yourself? I have been there constantly for the past 3 days, and have not seen you or any of your trusted staff.

It is true. I once belonged to a corp that also had Ran’Shad as a member, but then again so did many people. I would not have considered myself a friend, or even noticed by him as we were in different operational units; my focus was on running missions and helping rid belts of pirates, while he was in charge of the corporations mining activities. The fact that we were the points of contact for interested recruits proves nothing.

By your own supposed evidence I belonged to that corp for less than 1 week. Leaving it when the nature of their intention became clear to me. That hardly is enough time for Ran'Shad and I to become life long friends and co-conspirators. Should I report a list of every passing acquaintance I have appeared on a corporate roster with?

I have to say that I am disappointed in my associate Manwe. What he should perhaps look into was how much actual time his trusted staff in the center. I think a cursory look through their belongings will find more empty bottles and gambling chits than evidence of them having spent ANY time working alongside the rescued slaves.

The attack happened. I can understand how a cursory look at the Minmatar station can obscure current damage from the patchwork nature of the construction. Would you care to come and inspect the corpses? What will you say next that I have been collecting these as well? I understand that these sorts of incidents are stressful, and that we each respond differently. I never considered that my fellow Disciple would so quickly, and publicly, throw me under the nearest mag-train.

I open my hangars to anyone who would wish to take a look, invite you to speak with the station staff about how much time and effort I have put into building up Matriculation centre 4.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#37 - 2012-03-20 15:04:14 UTC
Ta Pang wrote:
Did you visit the centre yourself? I have been there constantly for the past 3 days, and have not seen you or any of your trusted staff.

It is true. I once belonged to a corp that also had Ran’Shad as a member, but then again so did many people. I would not have considered myself a friend, or even noticed by him as we were in different operational units; my focus was on running missions and helping rid belts of pirates, while he was in charge of the corporations mining activities. The fact that we were the points of contact for interested recruits proves nothing.

By your own supposed evidence I belonged to that corp for less than 1 week. Leaving it when the nature of their intention became clear to me. That hardly is enough time for Ran'Shad and I to become life long friends and co-conspirators. Should I report a list of every passing acquaintance I have appeared on a corporate roster with?

I have to say that I am disappointed in my associate Manwe. What he should perhaps look into was how much actual time his trusted staff in the center. I think a cursory look through their belongings will find more empty bottles and gambling chits than evidence of them having spent ANY time working alongside the rescued slaves.

The attack happened. I can understand how a cursory look at the Minmatar station can obscure current damage from the patchwork nature of the construction. Would you care to come and inspect the corpses? What will you say next that I have been collecting these as well? I understand that these sorts of incidents are stressful, and that we each respond differently. I never considered that my fellow Disciple would so quickly, and publicly, throw me under the nearest mag-train.

I open my hangars to anyone who would wish to take a look, invite you to speak with the station staff about how much time and effort I have put into building up Matriculation centre 4.


While Minmatar stations look like they are built patchwork, giant holes for drop ships tend to be an entirely different thing.

Anyways, let me know when you people sort this out.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-03-20 15:15:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
*redacted*

Washing my hands of this

Sabik now, Sabik forever
Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#39 - 2012-03-20 15:18:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Manwe Todako
Ta Pang wrote:
Did you visit the centre yourself? I have been there constantly for the past 3 days, and have not seen you or any of your trusted staff.

It is true. I once belonged to a corp that also had Ran’Shad as a member, but then again so did many people. I would not have considered myself a friend, or even noticed by him as we were in different operational units; my focus was on running missions and helping rid belts of pirates, while he was in charge of the corporations mining activities. The fact that we were the points of contact for interested recruits proves nothing.

By your own supposed evidence I belonged to that corp for less than 1 week. Leaving it when the nature of their intention became clear to me. That hardly is enough time for Ran'Shad and I to become life long friends and co-conspirators. Should I report a list of every passing acquaintance I have appeared on a corporate roster with?

I have to say that I am disappointed in my associate Manwe. What he should perhaps look into was how much actual time his trusted staff in the center. I think a cursory look through their belongings will find more empty bottles and gambling chits than evidence of them having spent ANY time working alongside the rescued slaves.

The attack happened. I can understand how a cursory look at the Minmatar station can obscure current damage from the patchwork nature of the construction. Would you care to come and inspect the corpses? What will you say next that I have been collecting these as well? I understand that these sorts of incidents are stressful, and that we each respond differently. I never considered that my fellow Disciple would so quickly, and publicly, throw me under the nearest mag-train.

I open my hangars to anyone who would wish to take a look, invite you to speak with the station staff about how much time and effort I have put into building up Matriculation centre 4.

We were there yesterday, you were not there, nor was any media, nor was a storm of RSS investigators, nor a makeshift morgue, nor were any of your residents of course. Center #4 was deserted. I am at the station right now. You are not here, Ta Pang. Neither is anything you have described. Ta Pang, you are lying. There was no attack. You were not injured in an attack. You were co-recruiter with Ran'shad in a very small corporation. You pretended not to know him when in fact you did. I also invite anyone to go and look at the station. There is not one shred of evidence of any attack on the station, period. You can stop the charade anytime now.

Edit: If you take a look at Off World Brotherhood's closed note you will see a reference to go to ICLR. There you will see that Ran'shad and Ta Pang followed each other around like love sick puppies. Hmm, yet they don't seem to remember each other.

Ta Pang
Imperial Combat Logistics Regiment 2011.05.01 13:37 to 2011.08.02 18:38
Imperial Combat Logistics Regiment 2011.08.04 19:02 to 2011.09.09 11:50

Ran’shad
Imperial Combat Logistics Regiment 2011.05.03 00:24 to 2011.06.11 16:14
Imperial Combat Logistics Regiment 2011.06.12 00:48 to 2011.08.22 16:51

Please don't try to tell me any more lies about you not knowing each other.

SANKOFA
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#40 - 2012-03-20 15:50:09 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
There have only been TWO incidents of a station being attacked in the last what, 4 years? One case took the suicide of an entire supercarrier to cause any damage, the other took an entire fleet of dreadnoughts, and even then they were barely successful.


There have been at least three. One that you're missing that comes to mind is Pashanai, nearly two years ago.

Morwen Lagann

CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

Owner, The Golden Masque