EVE General Discussion

As a relatively long term indy alt toon I have noticed something many of you are probably unaware of.

Hulks and the noob mining barges as well are vanishing from the game.
Our little neut alt corp is active in a couple of empires and many regions and are familiar with many rich mining areas that all have something new in common.

NO MINERS

Systems that once had heavy competitive pressure to get the ore are now mostly devoid of any miners whatsoever.
And this is a much bigger problem than many of you must understand.
Some mining/indy/missioning corps are now full time incursion farmers But the run of the mill, small corp afk mining noobs in a Hulk or two are fewer and farther between than I have EVER seen in nearly three years of play.
And these people were not bots, Bots are only in null, mining ABC around the clock.
Veldspar bots? Ice Bots, are you freaking STUPID?
Most hisec carebear miners/indys are less than 2 year old noobs that don't buy or sell isk. They usually take 6 months of hard work to get that Hulk that then likely as not gets ganked and they quit the game.
Or maybe they autopilot an industrial hauling a weeks worth of gametime work to a hub and that gets ganked. Same result, they quit the game.
And given the seedy and sorry reputation this game now has, guess what? There aren't any noobs out there in a Navitas learning how to mine.
Most 'noobs' these days are actually suicide ganking alts that belong to some jaded nullsec failbot corp. This game is going to fail and fail rather quickly if something isn't done pretty quick.
Nullsec is a total freaking fail. Watch this and try to see why. http://youtu.be/7zzJsA8iecA
And now hisec is swarmed with not bitter vets, but rather disillusioned thugs that dreamed of glory, but now settle for mere thuggery.
Mark my words, this game is going to fail. And when it does it will be far faster than you will imagine.

This has been going on for several months and it is getting worse, not better, not the same as always, but Worse, much worse,

The base of the Eve economy is vanishing.

A sad story.
When I started playing in 2008 there seemed to be many more players in young corps on joint hisec mining ops etc.
Maybe I just don't hang around in those systems any more so don't I see it?
EVE needs more fresh players and more depth to non space combat gameplay - and more people filling those niches.

Youtube link is broken btw.

Link is repaired.

Isk faucet known as incursions and no miners added together equals runaway inflation.

60 mil isk in 20 minutes is not an isk faucet?

60mil isk is the best situation not everyone is constantly running sites have you factored things like fleets competing? Or trying to get a fleet started? Only the truly bling bling players will burn through sites the rest are milling around trying to get into a fleet. Also no assault or headquarter fleet will complete a site in 20 minutes this is not even factoring in things like trying to build a fleet which for a HQ or AS site will take awhile

Suicide ganking will go out of fashion soon enough.

I keep hoping that less people mining means the EVE community as a whole is getting smarter.

And you're a dumbass too.

OP may have a point.

I see less WTBs in the character bazaar for miners of late. Same thing happened after the last bot purge but picked up again as the botters adapted. This time it's not picking up again.

Might be just a blip. I'd need a longer time to see the trend, but it may be that people are finally getting tired of it and moving on to another game. Or not. Time will tell.

Worth keeping an eye on, though. If mineral prices keep going up I'll have to jump in a belt myself so as not to lose money on my build costs.

Mr Epeen

Perhaps not many new players are joining the game? Cause there are things much more profitable than mining, but they aren't as easy.