Crime & Punishment

It's been my experience that Great Wildlands never has anyone in it. Dozens of systems with nobody home.

it's like that alot. At leat your blob concerns are dealt with :P

Have a bubble at one of the main entrance ways, and you'll get your targets.

omg. so many tears. so much crying. Would you like CCP to just do the ganking for you and then contract you to loot and mail a copy of the taunting in local?

WTB agro timer for logi
and if you want to buy risk free pvp jake, go roll in some 20 man blobs killing ratters

You seem to be confusing ganks and fights. We want both those things, but ganking mission runners is just that, ganks.

We don't confuse the two, and neither should you.

Our man Slimy Worm, for instance. Great ganker, mediocre fighter.

^. Griefing is not PvP. Griefing is a self-compensation effort made by lonely neckbeards with a superiority complex. The OP post is a testament to this, the rage about one's ability to be a schoolyard bully taken away and the resulting power trip at gathering support and funding for a 'crime spree'.

And don't say you're looking for honest fights. Ever. Honest, fair fights do not exist, from high-sec ganks to 0.0 fleets, fair fights have never and will never exist. At least the OP post has the balls to say "I am a griefer." instead of making up some lunatic self-justification about looking for 'fair fights'. You're not; stop saying it.

That said, I don't agree with griefing being nerfed. I don't like how mercanaries have been forced to shut down, and I don't like how lying, cheating, stealing and murdering has become more and more difficult, because that's just not fair. You can't wave your hand in the real world and just disable crime and dishonesty.

So, have fun. It doesn't affect me either way but that's my two cents - I think you're dickheads and losers but you should be allowed to do be dickheads and losers without the devs stepping in and locking down what you enjoy paying them to do.
The difference between the real world and this game is that in this game you can get away from griefers. It's easy to just ignore them and go away. And if you choose to not take the actions and just sit there and whine about being bullied, you goddamn deserve to be bullied.

To me, all the nerf's are not necessary. It is making Hi sec a lazy community. Not having to learn anything about safety in space. This is a bad thing for EVE lovers, but a great thing for WoW refugees.


I think the problems lies in how easy it is to kill Indy's. Not in how they are killed. Not having a chance to get out or fight back is not PVP. Give Indy's a fighting chance to survive. Giving them an abilty to insta warp through a module hi or low slot. this has several effects. it gives them survivability at the cost of profit. They have to work to survive still. and you dont need to nerf everything. The indy pilot has the choice and his choice effects the outcome. If he loses his ship then it was his fault


We have a policy in our corp and I know a lot of corps have it. When we are WD we do not fly indy's. Flying indy's while WD should be punished. Not given the abilty to remove the WD so you can fly them. 1 week of WD is not going to hurt your income. CCP should be making INDY's part of the community. Forcing them to make decisions. not holding their hand.


If i decide to fly my Frieghter with 20 bill worth of goodies. I should be able to be punished for doing it. but also give me the abilty to survive a gank too.


tl:dr give Indy's something to fight bk with

Sigh,I really don't know what to say to that. You know what I meant right?

The visual I have here is this, a over the road truck driver is driving along. Say, in Syria, where it's not really safe. What's he going to do to defend himself? Hire mercs to ride convoy with him to defend himself. This is what I see as low sec.

Now, imaging high sec being... oh, let's say Canada. You're driving your rig, and just in case, you have a shotgun for protection (the one high slot on the badger) and a bad guy rolls up (not in a tank, not really feasible in Canada I guess) and he has six buddies with him, all toting sub-machine guns. They shoot out your tires (warp scram?) and want your haul.... nuff said... high sec.

Police are there to help you (concord), however, they aren't going to let you carry a RPG just because they can't be there every minnute to hold your hand. :)

Can you tell I'm on pain killers? lol I like that story. :D

I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say...