Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Since there is a misunderstanding the player that bought the plex gets no isk or game time! They are paying to raise the cap on total isk in circulation in the entire game for everyone!

This is the solution to all EVE's economic woes: We need a finite amount of isk in the game. No new isk exits, no old isk leaves. If a ship dies the exact cost of the ship and its modules (recorded in the database as transactions) will be put back into the EVE economy. When the max amount of isk in circulation is reached, bounties missions and all isk faucets will stop and only player to player market trading will be allowed.

But wouldn't the game stagnate?

Nope! Instead of selling PLEX on the market or redeeming it for game time PLEX will be the only way of injecting new isk into the economy. Right now PLEX is used for game time or sold for isk and redeemed as game time. I want PLEX to become a donation to the EVE economy.

Every PLEX would add 1 billion isk to the max amount of isk in circulation for the entire economy. This means there can be no inflation because nobody is going to spend real money on PLEX if they can still make money.

Since players have to pay to benefit the entire economy, there will be no inflation. Inflation would be detrimental to their real world wallets.



Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players.

Confirming. The stream of inane drivel has recommenced.

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Incorrect. The player that bought the plex doesn't get any isk. They are paying to raise the max amount of isk available to all players.

*facepalm*

where do I start with this idiocy?

I'll keep it short and sweet I think.

What your proposing would completely remove the free market principles of EvE. One of the games major features.

Plex is generally accepted as inflationary neutral due to it being a transferance of ISK. If anything it has a sink associated with its escrow charges. It's also recognised as a current product not suffereing from money velocity which explains the high price.

Having a Plex actually add isk into the pot is by definition inflation. Especially in quantaties of a billion at a time.

Plex is more expensive than subscription, so the sensible use of spending "real money" on plex is for ISK or other game features realiant on them. It simply isnt the most economical way to spend RL money for Game time.

OP's proposed (and i assume it's a joke) system can easily have cost-push inflation.
= not a cure


also wrong, there is literally no way that for example my wallet going from 1b to 2b due to this hypothetical injection-by-plex can raise any prices if i decide not to spend it.

There are arguments to be made for fixed money supply economies, but this idea of yours is not very sound. It'll cause more problems than it will solve in an already unbalanced system. Eve should be having massive prices increases, but it is not for a number of systemic reasons caused by game mechanics. tinkering with the money supply isn't going to fix any of that, going to a fixed money supply would only make the rich in the game even more rich.

I bet you've all missed this everyone?

i thought you claimed your system won't have any inflation but it seems when it still can, it's 'valid economics' instead lolololol.

we have no hyperinflation fyi, it's pretty much impossible to have in eve, even when unsupervised (and ultimately ccp would step in)

limited isk supply would probably result in some parallel currency - minerals or faction ammo or whatever.

Yes you would, it's still an inflationary process.

Adding to the total pot means you extend the amount people can earn.

You think people would enjoy the experience of suddenly realising that the total pot has been reached and they cant profit to gain isk without them or soemone else suddenly being required to push the bubble further out?

How does that model compensate for player growth without enforcement of encouraging PLEX trade? Since yes increased volumes could lower prices. But means more and more plex is needed to afford growth. Where does it stop? When plex is 1 isk? How will that effect the RL trade? You think CCP would encourage people spending $15 for one isk, you don't imagine that would naturally in fact tend to reduce incentives to supply them?