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Remove gas and dust
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Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#1 - 2012-03-17 20:39:24 UTC
Please remove all the gas and dust clouds at missions/anomalies/plexes etc..

These do nothing but obscure the cool things we want to see (ships, structures, everything else), and drop frame rates considerably.

One or two concentrated clouds off to the side, that you are not IN during play is fine for aesthetics, but the entire field being covered in brown dust is just plain stupid

Please do this ultra simple fix right away. These clouds add nothing to the game, and some (the brown ones) actually make the game look worse



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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-03-17 21:08:11 UTC
Yes, please, some of these huge glowing gas clouds absolutely kill my frame rate, and are freaking obnoxious.
I don't really mission as much anymore so it doesn't really affect me but I definitely agree with this.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
EnderCapitalG
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-03-17 22:31:05 UTC
I rarely run these and I agree 100%
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#4 - 2012-03-17 23:36:46 UTC
Word my bruthahs...

Support this thread please, CCP just do this next update pleeeeease.

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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#5 - 2012-03-17 23:40:48 UTC
the dust slowly destroyes the coolant systems of my GPU. (and it does not look that good anyway, e.g even freespace had cooler looking nebulas back than)

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Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#6 - 2012-03-19 14:25:56 UTC
They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.

I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that.
Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2012-03-19 15:20:58 UTC
Komodo Askold wrote:
They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.

I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that.



+1, we need some controls over things of that nature. Thankfully most of the nebula was toned down a lot.

This is just a guess, When Eve first came out, graphics cards and monitors did not have the definition, clarity and contrast they have now, so everything was over done in some respects and there are still a few legacy things creeping around.

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Voxinian
#8 - 2012-03-19 15:59:14 UTC
big +1 from me too. I always zoom out in these areas cos you can't see a thing and it drops the fps a lot. I can run eve on max settings, but with large particle clouds I have to disable post-process. The gas clouds do look nice so maybe they can be placed further away from mission area's or less dense.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#9 - 2012-03-19 16:37:58 UTC
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-03-19 17:07:07 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.

It doesn't have to.

Clouds aren't awesome.

Stop being an idiot.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Voxinian
#11 - 2012-03-19 17:20:25 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.


Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds.
Adunh Slavy
#12 - 2012-03-19 17:22:32 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.



Hence use of the word "optional" by many posters.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-03-19 17:26:03 UTC
i aint upgrading my gpu just so i can look at a goddamn cloud, ccp you gotta fix your shiznit
Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#14 - 2012-03-19 18:33:13 UTC
Komodo Askold wrote:
They're beautiful, but in my opinion they're too "intense" most of the times.

I'd vote for them to be adjustable through settings: luminosity, density... things like that, including completely remove them if you want. Not just remove them completely, but having an option to do that.



Yes this.

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Leto Aramaus
Frog Team Four
Of Essence
#15 - 2012-03-19 18:37:25 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.





I have a GTX560 2gb of ram.... like 5th best gpu available.

But if you've ever ran a null-sec anomaly and had 50 npc's shooting at you at once, the effects will drop my frames from 200 to 30. (EVE on maxx settings minus shadows)

so you obviously know nothing about video cards or performance.

My point is, I would rather have my awesome graphics card (that runs BF3 on high) spend its resources rendering the ships and turret effects, than some ugly brown cloud.

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Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#16 - 2012-03-19 18:51:38 UTC
Voxinian wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.


Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds.


Because they blind you with pure awesomeness.

Now if only they screwed with the overview, dscan and probes as much as they do with your eyesight.....

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Asudem
Black Spear.
#17 - 2012-03-19 19:08:57 UTC
Agreed. Give us at least an option to disable the display of those graphic elements.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-03-19 20:26:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
How outdated are your computers? I'm using a 2008 Dell that was meant for media (1080p videos and awesome speakers FTW) and I'm running everything in EVE except the CQ on a healthy mixture of medium and high graphics. The only lag I get is when my internet decides to crap out on me. The FPS will drop just a tiny bit when I first warp into the room but it then quickly goes back to it's previous speed.

Seriously, get something without a floppy disk drive. Or if you can't do that then just zoom out all the way. You pretty much only need your overview and the control panel (if that's what the thing with the modules is called) to run missions anyway.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-03-19 20:33:01 UTC
I always felt that they shouldn't be glaringly white or overly opaque, but otherwise the only gripe I had with them is how utterly unrealistic they look in comparison to the rest of EVE. They don't drop my framerate, but if they're dropping everyone else's then there should at least be way fewer of them.

But please, for the love of Goddess, dim the bright white ones a little! There's something wrong when my mission occurs right next to a large cloud so brilliant that it literally shines through my overview and heads-up display so brightly that they cannot be read clearly. I spend a lot of time trying to find screen angles that work, and I don't actually get to see what I'm doing.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-03-19 20:36:19 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Voxinian wrote:
Asuka Solo wrote:
Please upgrade your fugly graphics card(s) or lack thereof to generate awesome clouds faster.

Your lack of rl funding should not effect my Eve eye candy.

kthanx.


Big pile of bullshit. To many gamedevs already create games that require a NASA PC to run properly on high settings (as the developers it intended it to be played). The primary goal should always be gameplay and playability. If I get drop of 20fps in a cloud on a decent pc then thats not good. Besides that, you can't see a thing in those clouds.


Because they blind you with pure awesomeness.

Now if only they screwed with the overview, dscan and probes as much as they do with your eyesight.....


Oh but they do. All of the overview elements are slightly transparent, and that slightly means that the glaringlly bright clouds shine right through so brightly that they obscure most everything in front of them. They also glare around the edges of opaque ships and objects, making them nearly impossible to see. Even the stars aren't this bright. Literally, they aren't. Go check and compare.

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