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So, Where are the "50 new DED sites" ?

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CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#41 - 2012-03-13 18:08:33 UTC
malaire wrote:

When were those added? I only see mentions of 2-4/10 sites being added in recent few expansions?


AFAIK the Blood and Sansha ones were added around May 2011, the rest have been around for years.
malaire
#42 - 2012-03-13 18:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: malaire
CCP Greyscale wrote:
malaire wrote:

When were those added? I only see mentions of 2-4/10 sites being added in recent few expansions?


AFAIK the Blood and Sansha ones were added around May 2011, the rest have been around for years.

Really? I've heard that there is no 9/10 sites at all and now you say there have been some for years?

Also why doesn't http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/DED_Complex_List list names of those 9/10 sites?

EDIT: Also comment on that page says "As far as I know, there is no DED complex rated 9/10. The Dark Blood Fleet Staging Point is an Unrated complex has been added and removed before. I'll remove it again. Elisa Fir 13:59, 2 February 2012 (GMT)"

So who is right here?

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malaire
#43 - 2012-03-13 18:19:40 UTC
St Mio wrote:
Shogun Archer wrote:
So much better to have the Dev tell us than to actually go out and explore... /sarcasm off

Bah, all he was doing was listing the null regions by rat faction, subtle dev trolling FTW =p

I consider that lying, just like that "50 new DED sites".

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#44 - 2012-03-13 18:19:52 UTC
needs the new Ded 2 plexes getted probed out? because on the map its nothing, when i set Ded complexes. It looks like before.

i'm REALY miss the old stuff. 

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Valei Khurelem
#45 - 2012-03-13 18:22:18 UTC
Quote:

I would like to take this opportunity to explain the discrepancy that was announced in the Crucible 1.5 patch notes page and features page.


Please fire your marketing department so they stop wasting our money.

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Alara IonStorm
#46 - 2012-03-13 18:22:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Bloodpetal wrote:
Alright.

CRUCIBLE was released in NOVEMBER.

In November, they added new sites, they added new modules (T2 Ganglinks, all kinds of T2 modules) - and a bunch of other things.

THIS PATCH is Crucible 1.5 - and in THIS PATCH they added a few new DED sites and everything else listed.

The only thing "sloppy" is your comprehension and attention to detail.


Yeah no. the quote, here is full text as of current.

Crucible Page wrote:
DED Complexes Get Even More Love

Ratters and mission runners receive a wave of new DED content for Blood Raider, Sansha and Serpentis pirate factions. Over 50 sites have been added, bringing new challenges and an array of new high-end modules that are sure to please those lucky enough to procure them.

Comes directly from the Crucible 1.5 Section of the website.

It says "Over 50 sites have been added, bringing new challenges and an array of new high-end modules"

The November release brought new modules but the Complexes released in this expansion don't drop them. Even if you consider those new the release does not bring an array of new high-end modules.

BTW here is the November section of the page.

Crucible Page wrote:
New DED Complexes

We're filling in the gaps for DED Complexes, adding more bosses and more modules (some never before seen in-game) in the process.


DevBlog: Pinch yourself: More bosses, more modules, more loot, less lurking, less scraps, less pop-up bother

I did not confuse the two. The 1.5 release is flat out wrong.

I don't have a problem with the the release. The big feature is obviously the launcher and the fact that they added some DED Complexes is a nice treat. I was just pointing out the mistake. That no new modules come with these site. Not newly created ones nor the ones from November...

Unless they did add new modules and forgot to tell us of course. P
Gank'aho
One within we are
#47 - 2012-03-13 18:41:51 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
malaire wrote:

When were those added? I only see mentions of 2-4/10 sites being added in recent few expansions?


AFAIK the Blood and Sansha ones were added around May 2011, the rest have been around for years.


So....CCP added 3 new sites and fixed 47 others...the total is 50, but not 50 NEW sites. CCP, lying to your player base isn't going to get you far...or did you forget..I suppose they were bound to revert to their old ways. Note fixing 50 sites to function properly does not mean they are "new".
Seb Seba
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-03-13 18:51:58 UTC
lol some of the posters here are bunch of fags.
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Dormax
Sumo Wrestlers
#49 - 2012-03-14 02:37:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Dormax
FWIW -- the Serpentis Live Cargo Distribution Facilities seemed OK for a highsec 2/10... Just finished one.

-- Shadow Serp Energized Kin Membrane
-- Coreli B Adaptive Nano Plating
-- Coreli B 1MN AB
-- 6th Tier Overseer Effects
-- 1.1M isk bounty (it's a 2/10 after all)

Didn't bother salvaging, but there were 50 frigates & cruisers + 9 gun/stasis towers according to the bounty list.
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-03-14 02:51:14 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:

Can we get a revisit and optimization of the Low Sec Complexes (3/10-5/10) in the near future please? As low sec dwellers, one of my guys has learned the mystic arts of making some good money, but some of the sites are total crap and totally unreliable and are always avoided. Personally, I've been caught in doing 3-4 hours of escalations to get almost NOTHING in value for that time and really left away never wanting to do them ever again.

Because low sec sites don't have a lot of Battleships for the Bounty rewards (which I'm fine with) at least give us more reliable income from other drops/effects/goodies to make up for the total reliance of a random drop at the end that may not appear (overseer effects don't help that much).

That's the issue with any low sec exploration, although some of the 4/10 and 5/10 faction drops can be really respectable with some luck - there isn't a consistent level on some of the lesser sites and signatures and I know it's exploration and not supposed to be predictable, at the same time having SOME knowledge that you'll get at least something worth your time will help promote it a little more on the LOWER end sites (which you can walk away with hardly a few million ISK with no luck - which is me)

CCP, Thanks for reading.

The same could be said for null-sec drop rates. Getting a ~50M overseers effect for doing a DED 10/10 is poor compensation for the caliber ships, high-skill characters and time required to complete these sites. Might as well go and do high-sec Incursions, tbh.

I don't want to overshadow the need for a buff to low-sec income generation -- it is needed.

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Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
#51 - 2012-03-14 12:34:02 UTC
Dormax wrote:
FWIW -- the Serpentis Live Cargo Distribution Facilities seemed OK for a highsec 2/10... Just finished one.

-- Shadow Serp Energized Kin Membrane
-- Coreli B Adaptive Nano Plating
-- Coreli B 1MN AB
-- 6th Tier Overseer Effects
-- 1.1M isk bounty (it's a 2/10 after all)

Didn't bother salvaging, but there were 50 frigates & cruisers + 9 gun/stasis towers according to the bounty list.


That's better than the last 5 low sec 4/10's I've done :/
FlameGlow
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-03-14 16:22:58 UTC
malaire wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
malaire wrote:

When were those added? I only see mentions of 2-4/10 sites being added in recent few expansions?


AFAIK the Blood and Sansha ones were added around May 2011, the rest have been around for years.

Really? I've heard that there is no 9/10 sites at all and now you say there have been some for years?

Also why doesn't http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/DED_Complex_List list names of those 9/10 sites?

EDIT: Also comment on that page says "As far as I know, there is no DED complex rated 9/10. The Dark Blood Fleet Staging Point is an Unrated complex has been added and removed before. I'll remove it again. Elisa Fir 13:59, 2 February 2012 (GMT)"

So who is right here?


It's not a DED 9/10, it's not showing DED popup and, more importantly, it doesn't drop any deadspace loot in same system
Sade Onyx
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-03-19 10:03:22 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
We released Crucible 1.5 with three new DED sites, however, in the previous months over 50 sites have been added, fixed or changed.


fixed... or changed... does not = "new"

If I fix my car, its not a new car

If I change the colour of my car its not a new car.

Is this how CCP intends to market itself in the future? Lies and/or deceit?

You know, its not cool to try and deceive Gamers, especially Eve players. And especially as the last time you tried to BS us (Incarna) a significant portion of you lost your jobs.

Of course this isnt the same scale.. but its a slippery slope, I suggest you have a word with yourself.
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#54 - 2012-03-19 11:17:14 UTC
Sade Onyx wrote:
CCP Navigator wrote:
We released Crucible 1.5 with three new DED sites, however, in the previous months over 50 sites have been added, fixed or changed.


fixed... or changed... does not = "new"


There haven't been any new modules in Crucible 1.5 either even though they were advertised (trust me, I would know ;)

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The FaIcon
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds
#55 - 2012-04-02 20:26:39 UTC

Hi,

Intrigued by all the demands to improve the loot drops from complexes - is it me or are you missing the point here ?

The reason deadspace drops are valuable is that they are rare. It's simple economics. If every Serpentis site dropped a C-Type EAMN, the contracts market would be full of the things and the price would fall.

Eventually everyone who wanted one would have one and you would only be able to make money by reprocessing them for ore like Murky Energy Transmitters. Is that what you want ? Coz that's what'll happen !

If you're not making enough money from running plexes - it's time to go do something else ... Incursions would work.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-04-02 20:30:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
I don't know what you are all on about. CCP didn't say they were going to add in 50 new "types" of sites. They said 50 new "sites". I believe one or two of them are in Tenal which explains why Goons are going after that space. There are probably a few down in southern space as well. Most of them ended up in WH space.

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