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(PROPOSAL) FIX THE GD CHARACTER TRANSFER SYSTEM, ITS FULL R3TARD
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Uronksur Suth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-03-19 09:57:52 UTC
Mealtime wrote:
» (PROPOSAL) FIX THE GD CHARACTER TRANSFER SYSTEM, ITS FULL R3TARD »
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Oh wow you're clearly really seriously and hardcore or something for yelling in caps. Scamming in character trade is petitionable. This isn't even remotely a priority or worth developer time.
Arpad Elo
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#22 - 2012-03-19 13:36:10 UTC
yep

we should probably leak a list of account names acquired through character transfers

that might help get faster action on this issue.
Mealtime
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-03-19 16:50:33 UTC
Uronksur Suth, yeah yeah the post is in caps, it's doing what it's supposed to and getting people to read this. Yes it is petition able but what I am saying is that a better system can be implemented so that you don't have to give your account name and also not get scammed.

By the way, if your character does get hacked, even if you get it back, all the assets may have been stripped and generally are not reimbursed to you.
Joyelle
SludgeSlingers
#24 - 2012-03-21 01:22:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Joyelle
Uronksur Suth wrote:
Mealtime wrote:
» (PROPOSAL) FIX THE GD CHARACTER TRANSFER SYSTEM, ITS FULL R3TARD »
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Oh wow you're clearly really seriously and hardcore or something for yelling in caps. Scamming in character trade is petitionable. This isn't even remotely a priority or worth developer time.

Actually, you are really wrong. If you know what it feels like to wait for weeks before receiving your isk back or even getting a reply then you won't post that comment that sounds like it's coming from an ignorant individual or someone involved in the same dubious act.
A contract like system will narrow character transfer issues or scams to only hacked accounts. The way it works is simple and sound, if you can afford it then pay up but if you can't then move on... anyone that doesn't get his character sold can adjust the price as needed.
The current mechanism makes it too easy to scam and put unnecessary work load on the GMs. This is time that can be used to address problems of new players that CCP is trying so hard retain and please. All of these can be easily avoided. A wise man once said, "If ignorance is bliss, why aren't there more happy people?"
Jiix Zix
Y-og
#25 - 2012-03-21 08:42:46 UTC

Well,

They used to have ETC selling through the account management page where you assign the ETC to someone and price you are asking for it.

I just wonder why (other than the possibility to scam ISK from the current method is considered business as usual) this method was not adopted to the character transfers.

If you are auctioning your character on forums and then when the auction is over you'd then simply assign that character-to-be-sold to a character "I BUY TOONS AND STUFF" with the amount of isk agreed - and when the buyer accepts the character the character transfer fee is deducted from the sellers account and the isk is transfered or possibility to purchase 'character transfer token(s) in advance.

If the seller do not have credits at the time when the transaction would take place it would just notify the buyer that the transaction could not be made and inform the seller by e-mail 'Dude, where's your credit?' so the seller could then make approriate actions.

However, all things must evolve or die away this whole thing could be taken to another level and implement the real character bazaar.

Seller would put character up on auction with options: Auction time, Min bid, Reserve, Buyout.
Optionally some sort of short 'sales speech' field allowed as well.
Characters with negative wallet and other invalid data could not be put up on sale.

Then normal auction controls for buyers, bid x (needs to be higher than min bid apparently) / buyout.
Bidding would then reserve the isk bidded on the character till higher bid or buyout has been made.


The auction would then provide information about the character in example:


  • Skill list and queue
  • Corp history
  • Security status
  • Forum post count (link to posts)
  • etc what is considered relevant.


Optionally there could be search filtering when listing characters on the bazaar based on skills etc.

Just my few cents - love it or keep on hating.

- J
Smiling Menace
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-03-21 15:09:11 UTC
As much as the transfer mechanics leave a lot to be desired, you really have to ask yourself just how much of a problem is the current system?

If it was affecting a large portion of the EVE population then I would agree that it would need fixing.

However, I suspect that this will only ever affect a very small minority of people that trade characters for whatever reason.

I don't think it would be worthwhile for CCP to devote time and resources to this.

My own personal opinion on this is that transferring or selling characters should never have been allowed in the first place because it is very open to abuse.

Caveat emptor as they say.
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