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Any -ACTIVE PVP- Alliances exist without stupid politics?
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Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-03-19 02:06:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
Are there any active pvp alliances out there that dont have their panties in a twist? Honestly active. Not just "getting ready to be" or "building our forces" or anything. I mean an alliance that actually has multiple daily roams?


TL;DR people dont read further, its a rant;

My corp joined Unprovoked Aggression and they were super active. Shortly later they moved into Antem and started 'building and recruiting'.

Antem has been absolutely dead and void of fights. Our guys are going inactive out of bordom. A small handful of the alliance does nothing but camp extremely low-traffic highsec gates nearby mostly ganking empty haulers coming in. (and alliance passes rules banning those gates because they're worried it will draw too much attention)

I point out the lack of activity and they get angry. I take a month-long break from eve, come back and comment that its still like this. Fight erupts, and UA boots my whole corp from alliance. lol.



UA has done virtually nothing in months. I would be logged in spinning my ships waiting for 16 hours a day and usually nothing happened. Some of them have started running lvl4 missions in lowsec. They've started setting miners down the New Eden pipe to blue. What the ****.



So, I've been booted from BLADE alliance because i sold DanielJedi an anathema for 15 mil "ripping off the alliance"

booted from TEST alliance because the Rightclick menu bug that pops up "Invite to" late and i accidentally invited TEST Nyx into my buddy's channel, who is in PL (instead of approaching the nyx)

And now booted from UA for trying to convince them to do something other then bash POS/POCOs once a month and/or posting about a killmail where our alliance hotdropped a supercarrier on a machariel for the lulz (apparently the SC was a supersecret or something)

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Nikola Aivoras
Mercantilist Corporation of New Eden
#2 - 2012-03-19 02:22:23 UTC
Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but no alliance will be the way you want it to be unless you run it yourself.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-03-19 02:24:16 UTC
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but no alliance will be the way you want it to be unless you run it yourself.


Honestly i just want an alliance that has at least 2 daily roams/ops/activities that are PVP, not PVE. I'd be willing to shut up and obey stupid ******** rules if they at least did that

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Nikola Aivoras
Mercantilist Corporation of New Eden
#4 - 2012-03-19 02:27:12 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
Well, I hate to be the one to say this, but no alliance will be the way you want it to be unless you run it yourself.


Honestly i just want an alliance that has at least 2 daily roams/ops/activities that are PVP, not PVE. I'd be willing to shut up and obey stupid ******** rules if they at least did that


That shouldn't be too hard to find.

Unfortunately I don't know of any such alliances, except pirate alliances.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2012-03-19 02:29:04 UTC
Nikola Aivoras wrote:
That shouldn't be too hard to find.

Unfortunately I don't know of any such alliances, except pirate alliances.


I'm already -10 security, pirate alliances are 100% fine by me. Point me in the direction? =p

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Nikola Aivoras
Mercantilist Corporation of New Eden
#6 - 2012-03-19 02:36:40 UTC
SCUM. is rather active, as is Veto Corp.

Those are the two I've had run-ins in the past with. There are probably many more out there.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2012-03-19 02:45:16 UTC
lmao, UA talked a bunch of **** about our corp members... and now privately evemailing them trying to recruit them back into UA's shipspin fleet.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-03-19 02:45:22 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
booted from TEST alliance because the Rightclick menu bug that pops up "Invite to" late and i accidentally invited TEST Nyx into my buddy's channel, who is in PL (instead of approaching the nyx)


i'm sure there's a lot more to this story than that

was your buddy named "Fintroll" by chance?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-03-19 02:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
Andski wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
booted from TEST alliance because the Rightclick menu bug that pops up "Invite to" late and i accidentally invited TEST Nyx into my buddy's channel, who is in PL (instead of approaching the nyx)


i'm sure there's a lot more to this story than that

was your buddy named "Fintroll" by chance?


Nope. I was literally in the middle of a TEST op, i tried to approach a nyx with the rightclick menu. sliding my mouse up to the top of the menu i went past "invite to:" and it popped up the list of channels the instant i tried to click Approach.

After the op was over i was accused of being a PL spy. My friend, who's now quit eve entirely, was in my very first eve corp and i stayed in touch with him since then. He was in PL at the time of the 'invite'.

I **** you not, thats all there was to it. Ask your real spies to dig up the old TEST forum thread about it, you'll see for yourself

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#10 - 2012-03-19 03:07:16 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Andski wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
booted from TEST alliance because the Rightclick menu bug that pops up "Invite to" late and i accidentally invited TEST Nyx into my buddy's channel, who is in PL (instead of approaching the nyx)


i'm sure there's a lot more to this story than that

was your buddy named "Fintroll" by chance?


Nope. I was literally in the middle of a TEST op, i tried to approach a nyx with the rightclick menu. sliding my mouse up to the top of the menu i went past "invite to:" and it popped up the list of channels the instant i tried to click Approach.

After the op was over i was accused of being a PL spy. My friend, who's now quit eve entirely, was in my very first eve corp and i stayed in touch with him since then. He was in PL at the time of the 'invite'.

I **** you not, thats all there was to it. Ask your real spies to dig up the old TEST forum thread about it, you'll see for yourself


If this was almost a year ago, I remember this.

You could attempt to talk to a recruiter, we're friendly with PL these days (they are neuts and we shoot them, but we're on friendly terms and have flown together).

But your best option, especially if your corp has active pilots who feel the same way, is to organize daily ops yourself, and not expect someone else to do it for you.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-03-19 03:10:21 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
You could attempt to talk to a recruiter, we're friendly with PL these days (they are neuts and we shoot them, but we're on friendly terms and have flown together).


http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=394701

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#12 - 2012-03-19 03:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Andski wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
You could attempt to talk to a recruiter, we're friendly with PL these days (they are neuts and we shoot them, but we're on friendly terms and have flown together).


http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=394701


Like I said, hostiles were friendly with.

Think of it like two dudes who will punch each other bloody and then have a beer together afterwards.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-03-19 03:13:40 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Andski wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
You could attempt to talk to a recruiter, we're friendly with PL these days (they are neuts and we shoot them, but we're on friendly terms and have flown together).


http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=394701


Like I said, hostiles w'ere friendly with.

Think of it like two dudes who will punch each other bloody and then have a beer together afterwards.


The dude dropped right onto the 6vdt undock. The TEST publords were screaming "DON'T SHOOT" and the dude got DD'ed. Keeping a character in Fountain is fun.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#14 - 2012-03-19 03:15:26 UTC
Andski wrote:


The dude dropped right onto the 6vdt undock. The TEST publords were screaming "DON'T SHOOT" and the dude got DD'ed. Keeping a character in Fountain is fun.


Bahahahahahahaha!

I'm sad I missed that.
Terminal Insanity
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2012-03-19 03:17:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Terminal Insanity
I really enjoyed my time in TEST, they were super active. But tbh i've seen many many instances of TEST peolpe getting ganked by the rest of TEST, and after being accused of being a spy myself, while my carrier is on field, i just cant bring myself to trust them with my ships. I got really lucky getting away that day.

I never fly a carrier without my own cyno exit. This combined with the CCP feature not allowing you to boot people from corp in-space allowed me to cyno back to 6vdt and dock. 10 seconds later i was booted.

"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-03-19 03:22:57 UTC
Terminal Insanity wrote:
I really enjoyed my time in TEST, they were super active. But tbh i've seen many many instances of TEST peolpe getting ganked by the rest of TEST, and after being accused of being a spy myself, while my carrier is on field, i just cant bring myself to trust them with my ships. I got really lucky getting away that day.

I never fly a carrier without my own cyno exit. This combined with the CCP feature not allowing you to boot people from corp in-space allowed me to cyno back to 6vdt and dock. 10 seconds later i was booted.


If your carrier is still stuck there, I'll jump it to Aridia for you!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#17 - 2012-03-19 04:02:59 UTC
In regards to Veto, they are not so much an Alliance as a corp that sits in an Alliance for some weird reason. As far as I know, they do not intend to add corps to the Alliance. If you are not 100% attached to the idea of running your own corp and are looking for an active community of PVPers then Veto will be making a recruitment drive after leadership gets back from fan-fest.

I will say, Veto is one of the best group of guys I have ever flown with. They are a very tight knit community and get into some really fun fights on a regular basis.
Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-03-19 04:06:56 UTC
Eve alliances are stupid.

EVE corps are even more stupid.

Only 2-3 times that I've been to semi decent organizations.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2012-03-19 04:22:42 UTC
Join Sniggwaffe

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Ajita al Tchar
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-03-19 06:38:03 UTC
If you're so unhappy... How about pitching in and organizing ops yourself rather than expecting someone else to do all the hard work?

But of course you mostly like to spout rants and complaints and a general flood of lolwords, so I fully expect you to be one of those people who would rather complain than do something constructive to help fix whatever.
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