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Vin Ott
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-03-03 11:37:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Vin Ott
The complaints that you're making about titans and other capitals killing subcaps that's what happends in tq as well,

Like it or not these ships are around can't do anything about it.

Also "Orator de Umbras " , there were two incidents with titans once indeed that everybody had max sp also once as I said that ccp screwed up and seeded levi and avatar wich caused lots of problems for the test server.

So you can stop asking about seeding supers it will never be done if you want a super badly go make a super carrier and die on that same day, have fun.
Green Cobra
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-03-10 10:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Green Cobra
If there are no need to test super capitals then they are more of a problem in the test system. Every day you have 1/4 of SISI test systems local pilots from 1 corp that have 99% of the super capitals in SISI that play good in the CA arenas, before it was TRIXI now it's Shiva. To me and most that do some testing and combine that with some casual pvp fun it makes test system broken in the sense you don't want to do any testing.

The main reason CCP have stated that they don't want to enforce any but basic rules on SISI is the time they had to spend on enforcing the rules like it was in FD before. But there are some really simple steps to make SISI test system a testsystem that most enjoy to be in.

Implement a flag in test builds (DB parameter) to indicate if super capital testing is requested on more than test days.

All that's needed is an initial small effort from a CCP or GM then implementing 3 triggers in the DB on a distinct events:
1. First there have to be a minimal initial effort. Move all super capitals with active pilot from SISI test system to FD
2. Implement a trigger named "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionActivate" on event "Pilot entering ship" and enable it
3. Implement a trigger named "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionJump" on event "Capital Jump initiated" and enable it
4. Implement a trigger named "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionBridge" on event "jumping via Jumpbridge" and enable it

In trigger "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionActivate":

  • Check if build require super capital testing on more than test days or not. If this constraint is true exit the trigger and if false continue to next constraint check.
  • Check if said ship is a super capital. If this constraint is false exit the trigger and if true continue to next constraint check
  • Check if said ship is located in in test system - If constraints are meet move said super capital to FD station in the same manner as massmoveme channel does on test days.


In trigger "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionJump":

  • Check if build require super capital testing on more than test days or not. If this constraint is true exit the trigger and if false continue to next constraint check.
  • Check if said ship is a super capital. If this constraint is false exit the trigger and if true continue to next constraint check
  • Check if said ship is jumping to test system - If constraints are meet move said super capital to FD station in the same manner as massmoveme channel does on test days.


In trigger "SISISuperCapTestRestrictionBridge":

  • Check if build require super capital testing on more than test days or not. If this constraint is true exit the trigger and if false continue to next constraint check.
  • Check if said ship is a super capital. If this constraint is false exit the trigger and if true continue to next constraint check
  • Check if said ship is bridging to test system - If constraints are meet move said super capital to FD station in the same manner as massmoveme channel does on test days.
Needle73
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-03-13 21:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Needle73
with shiva in 6-cz local i cant test any capital ship i can fly.

i buy capital, fit and warp to CA. 2-5 min later... i see in grid 3 or 2 titan(shiva ofc) and than they just DD me, stay 10 min and warp out.

every my capital ship die same

and I cant do anything with it.

so may be ccp can do ?
Vin Ott
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-03-15 10:05:49 UTC
Needle73 wrote:
with shiva in 6-cz local i cant test any capital ship i can fly.

i buy capital, fit and warp to CA. 2-5 min later... i see in grid 3 or 2 titan(shiva ofc) and than they just DD me, stay 10 min and warp out.

every my capital ship die same

and I cant do anything with it.

so may be ccp can do ?


That also happends in TQ so I don't see the problem.
Green Cobra
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-03-15 11:51:34 UTC
Vin Ott wrote:
Needle73 wrote:
with shiva in 6-cz local i cant test any capital ship i can fly.

i buy capital, fit and warp to CA. 2-5 min later... i see in grid 3 or 2 titan(shiva ofc) and than they just DD me, stay 10 min and warp out.

every my capital ship die same

and I cant do anything with it.

so may be ccp can do ?


That also happends in TQ so I don't see the problem.


That's not entirely true. On TQ you will more than like not be killed by a titan every time (more or less) you PVP (read test for SISI) but on SISI you have one dedicated system with titans camping the CA beacons. Also on SISI you don't have the player/corporation support to handle super caps in the same way as on TQ so I'd say they hinder testing in situations where the patch don't require testing of super caps.
J3ssica Biel
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-03-18 14:51:56 UTC
Needle73 wrote:
with shiva in 6-cz local i cant test any capital ship i can fly.

i buy capital, fit and warp to CA. 2-5 min later... i see in grid 3 or 2 titan(shiva ofc) and than they just DD me, stay 10 min and warp out.

every my capital ship die same

and I cant do anything with it.

so may be ccp can do ?

(:
Comodore John
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#27 - 2012-03-20 22:16:23 UTC
Green Cobra wrote:
If there are no need to test super capitals then they are more of a problem in the test system. Every day you have 1/4 of SISI test systems local pilots from 1 corp that have 99% of the super capitals in SISI that play good in the CA arenas, before it was TRIXI now it's Shiva.


Just to clarify this, we may have controlled the capital population a bit, but we actually left our supers and played in subs on our SUPER characters, unlike current people.
Vin Ott
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-03-24 14:05:45 UTC
Comodore John wrote:
Green Cobra wrote:
If there are no need to test super capitals then they are more of a problem in the test system. Every day you have 1/4 of SISI test systems local pilots from 1 corp that have 99% of the super capitals in SISI that play good in the CA arenas, before it was TRIXI now it's Shiva.


Just to clarify this, we may have controlled the capital population a bit, but we actually left our supers and played in subs on our SUPER characters, unlike current people.



Don't you mean that you don't have any ?:p
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